2020/2021 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

The trade for Elliot was based on him being our starting goalie.


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And now we get to enjoy Kyrou/Girard/Hart/Hronek on other teams

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

And now we get to enjoy Kyrou/Girard/Hart/Hronek on other teams

Alex Debrincat. Nuff said.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

The trade for Elliot was based on him being our starting goalie.


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And it was an extremely short sighted decision. First of all, Brian Elliott had one season left on his contract. Secondly, the Flames were rebuilding to an extent, so giving up the 35th pick in a deep draft for 1 year of Elliott is straight foolishness. Thirdly, Brian Elliott sucks. His catching glove has a giant hole in it and the only reason why he was any good was because of the Blue’s stifling defensive play. Very poor pro scouting from his team. It honestly would’ve been more prudent to bring back an injured Karri Ramo to compete with Chad Johnson. I actually think I hate the Elliott trade almost as much as I do the Hamonic trade.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

And it was an extremely short sighted decision. First of all, Brian Elliott had one season left on his contract. Secondly, the Flames were rebuilding to an extent, so giving up the 35th pick in a deep draft for 1 year of Elliott is straight foolishness. Thirdly, Brian Elliott sucks. His catching glove has a giant hole in it and the only reason why he was any good was because of the Blue’s stifling defensive play. Very poor pro scouting from his team. It honestly would’ve been more prudent to bring back an injured Karri Ramo to compete with Chad Johnson. I actually think I hate the Elliott trade almost as much as I do the Hamonic trade.

FWIW, the Flame's advance analytics on Elliot were quite good.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

Alex Debrincat. Nuff said.

I always think he got drafted in the first round.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I always think he got drafted in the first round.

Probably because he was in the 20s on a lot of lists.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

FWIW, the Flame's advance analytics on Elliot were quite good.

Maybe analytics don’t tell the whole story then. If Treliving’s advanced analytics are part of the reason why he fell in love with Hamonic and signed the Neal’s and Brouwer’s of the world then count me out on analytics. I’d rather have the guy who has the elite eye for talent and the vision to build a contender. I think any random could’ve taken the once promising young 2014 core to a bubble playoff team of today. What the Flames needed was for Treliving to help elevate them past that and he didn’t.

The cupboards are also bare relative to rest of the league and that’s another big problem. The other teams ranked next to us have won Cups or have have a finals appearance or have won a lot of playoff rounds. We’re in a bad spot everywhere up and down.

[Royle9]

John Vogl who’s a Sabres beat writer and I think part of the Athletic wrote the Flames offer would have to include Tkachuk, Zary and a 1st and wrote that both Eichel and Reinhart could be a good fit.

Not sure how people feel about that, I think I’d give that up.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Royle9

John Vogl who’s a Sabres beat writer and I think part of the Athletic wrote the Flames offer would have to include Tkachuk, Zary and a 1st and wrote that both Eichel and Reinhart could be a good fit.

Not sure how people feel about that, I think I’d give that up.

Have to make the cap work though. I wouldn't mind Reinhart but that's over $15m in cap space

Tkachuk, Hanifin, Backlund and a 1st

for

Eichel and Reinhart

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Royle9

John Vogl who’s a Sabres beat writer and I think part of the Athletic wrote the Flames offer would have to include Tkachuk, Zary and a 1st and wrote that both Eichel and Reinhart could be a good fit.

Not sure how people feel about that, I think I’d give that up.

Done deal

[Flames_F.T.W]

Originally Posted by Royle9

John Vogl who’s a Sabres beat writer and I think part of the Athletic wrote the Flames offer would have to include Tkachuk, Zary and a 1st and wrote that both Eichel and Reinhart could be a good fit.

Not sure how people feel about that, I think I’d give that up.

I was surprised to read in the comments how many Sabres fans were OK with the Tkachuk proposal.. I'd do that deal all day everyday

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Have to make the cap work though. I wouldn't mind Reinhart but that's over $15m in cap space

Tkachuk, Hanifin, Backlund and a 1st

for

Eichel and Reinhart

I'd do that. I'd also be dangling a draft pick or a prospect not named Zary, Pelletier, Kuznetsov, Poirier, or Wolf to Seattle for them to take Lucic. Complete reset on our salary structure and all of the worst salaries gone.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Royle9

John Vogl who’s a Sabres beat writer and I think part of the Athletic wrote the Flames offer would have to include Tkachuk, Zary and a 1st and wrote that both Eichel and Reinhart could be a good fit.

Not sure how people feel about that, I think I’d give that up.

I would do it, I even add Monahan instead of Zary for salary purpose if they want.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Royle9

John Vogl who’s a Sabres beat writer and I think part of the Athletic wrote the Flames offer would have to include Tkachuk, Zary and a 1st and wrote that both Eichel and Reinhart could be a good fit.

Not sure how people feel about that, I think I’d give that up.

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Originally Posted by New Era

I'd do that. I'd also be dangling a draft pick or a prospect not named Zary, Pelletier, Kuznetsov, Poirier, or Wolf to Seattle for them to take Lucic. Complete reset on our salary structure and all of the worst salaries gone.

While it'd be nice for the Flames cap situation for Seattle to take Looch, after he waived his clause so that the Flames could protect someone else for the betterment of the team... It would be a massive dick move to convince Seattle to take him

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Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

I would do it, I even add Monahan instead of Zary for salary purpose if they want.

Monahan, Tkachuk, 1st for Eichel and Reinhart is interesting. Not sure who says no.

Though I find it hard to envision none of Monahan, Tkachuk or Gaudreau on the team in 2yrs, think one sticks (and it's least likely Johnny of the 3)

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Icon

While it'd be nice for the Flames cap situation for Seattle to take Looch, after he waived his clause so that the Flames could protect someone else for the betterment of the team... It would be a massive dick move to convince Seattle to take him

What happens if he's the perfect Vet to protect the young franchise? Nobody can say he didn't play his role this year in Calgary be it a bit pricey! Always gotta hit the cap floor.

[keenan87]

It helps that Philly also had a disappointing season. Can still see a deal involving Konecny and Gaudreau.

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Originally Posted by Sec214

What happens if he's the perfect Vet to protect the young franchise? Nobody can say he didn't play his role this year in Calgary be it a bit pricey! Always gotta hit the cap floor.

I mean sure if Seattle decides to just take him then whatever. But I think it'd look bad for the Flames to actively convince them to

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Icon

While it'd be nice for the Flames cap situation for Seattle to take Looch, after he waived his clause so that the Flames could protect someone else for the betterment of the team... It would be a massive dick move to convince Seattle to take him

Agreed…Lucic thing just has to play out naturally

Don’t want to be blacklist by all FAs or trades, not that we are not already

Besides while I don’t love Lucic hockey, I absolutely love him as a player. If that makes any sense