Kyle Rittenhouse Trial - Update: Acquitted On All Charges

[FunkMasterFlame]

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

Well, yes. Rittenhouse had shot and killed an unarmed man prior to this video beginning.

Who was chasing and cornered Kyle (who was running away yelling "Friendly Friendly Friendly"), had previously threatened to kill Kyle if he caught him alone that night, and had his hands on the barrel of Kyle's gun when he was shot as proven by the powder burns on his hands and the video evidence.

Is it really so hard to explain the full context of what actually happened?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by FunkMasterFlame

Who was chasing and cornered Kyle (who was running away yelling "Friendly Friendly Friendly"), had previously threatened to kill Kyle if he caught him alone that night, and had his hands on the barrel of Kyle's gun when he was shot as proven by the powder burns on his hands and the video evidence.

Is it really so hard to explain the full context of what actually happened?

Right, but you have some people here arguing that "information they had at the time" is a more important driver of understanding this situation in context than beneficial hindsight.

The chances of everyone chasing him and involved knowing the first guy grabbed his gun as proven by powder burns on his hands or had threatened to kill him are slim to none. Most people there seemed to take it as an active shooter situation, fewer still would have understood he'd shot and killed an unarmed man, and I'm sure a very, very small number of people, if any, processed exactly what happened as it happened.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Rittenhouse also had his gun out and pointed at Grosskreutz, so I'm not sure what the difference matters.

The reason why the difference in their medical training matters is that one of them was actually trained to provide it, so for one of them, it's at least a somewhat believable story.

To be fair Rittenhouse had a fair bit of first aid training as both a certified life guard and a fireman cadet:

He was a police explorer for the Grayslake Police Department and a cadet with the Antioch Fire Department. He also was a certified lifeguard trained in CPR, defibrillator use and “basic life support.”

https://apnews.com/article/kyle-ritt...9fe2161d7c3ab3

If anything Rittenhouse's background in first aid probably added to his delusions that he was a protector.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Right, but you have some people here arguing that "information they had at the time" is a more important driver of understanding this situation in context than beneficial hindsight.

The chances of everyone chasing him and involved knowing the first guy grabbed his gun as proven by powder burns on his hands or had threatened to kill him are slim to none. Most people there seemed to take it as an active shooter situation, fewer still would have understood he'd shot and killed an unarmed man, and I'm sure a very, very small number of people, if any, processed exactly what happened as it happened.

This entire incident should serve as a lesson as to why citizens shouldn't be armed but I'm afraid it's doing the exact opposite.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

This entire incident should serve as a lesson as to why citizens shouldn't be armed but I'm afraid it's doing the exact opposite.

100%

If Rittenhouse doesn't bring a gun, two less people are dead. If Grosskreutz doesn't pull his gun, maybe he walks away without a hole blown through his arm.

Is there any better evidence against "guns don't kill people"? Guns drove the results of this situation entirely.

[accord1999]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Is there any better evidence against "guns don't kill people"? Guns drove the results of this situation entirely.

Guns may have created this fatal incident, but ultimately governments cannot allow protests to turn so violent and allow buildings and businesses to be burned down, otherwise you risk (especially in the USA where gun rights are part of the mythos) things becoming deadly.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by OptimalTates

The knife was in his hand as he was shot.

That was not confirmed in any shape or fashion. One officer said he thought he saw a knife, but the other officers could not confirm that statement. No one else saw a knife. The knife in question was recovered from the floorboards of the SUV. Where it was prior to that was unknown. Again, only one officer made the claim of seeing a knife and the others on the scene would not backup that claim.

While the mother (the woman he had raped (allegedly)) was screaming about her children as Blake approached them.

This is bull####. Blake was actually unaware any warrants for him existed and he never raped or sexually assaulted his ex. She made it up to extract money out of him. Did they have a rocky relationship? Yes, they did. Did he rape or assault her? Nope. Was a pain in her ass, but never stuck anything in that ass after they separated. He ended up getting hit with a misdemeanor for disorderly conduct for taking her car, and everything else was dropped.

Here's the dispatch audio and a timeline of what happened. Just in case anyone wants to hear what went over the airways. Then there's also the wiki page, which links through to a plethora of supporting documents that show the truth of what happened that day, and the relationship between Blake and his estranged ex.

Should be noted that Blake was attempting to leave when the 9/11 call was made by Blake's ex. She refused to provide details to the dispatcher that would have allowed the police to track the vehicle and diffuse the situation. She escalated the events to a level they did not need to get to. When you consider it took three minutes from her call to when Blake was shot seven times in the back, things were obviously already to a heightened state of alert when officers arrived and that was going to result in a confrontation.

Blake was obviously not an upstanding individual and had differences with his ex-girl friend, but based on the evidence in the complaint, her call to 9/11, and her refusal to cooperate with dispatch in providing information, she escalated this to a point where something catastrophic was likely to happen.

Whether he turned to the officer or not I think is super debatable, but as an officer how do you let a violent man approach children with a knife as the victim mother screams? Like Blake himself says "he wasn't thinking right". He caused all the issues, including knowingly violating a court order.

Thankfully it didn't happen at all like you're suggesting. There was a thread on this, I think buried in the Flloyd shooting thread, and it was clearly beat to death and the usual suspects were wrong as the facts came to light.

Also he was not executed. Despite maybe best efforts he is alive today.

That was as close to an execution as you can get. 7 rounds from point blank range into the back. It is a miracle he survived.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by accord1999

Guns may have created this fatal incident, but ultimately governments cannot allow protests to turn so violent and allow buildings and businesses to be burned down, otherwise you risk (especially in the USA where gun rights are part of the mythos) things becoming deadly.

If we are going to look at the bigger picture then it also needs to be said that governments cannot allow police to shoot people while they are trying to detain them.

The problems here run deep. The outcome of a single trial is not going to turn the tide. Any solution ( and by that I mean remediation) will need to address the upstream determinates of these events, rather than focusing on the tragic outcomes of them.

[OptimalTates]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

That was not confirmed in any shape or fashion. One officer said he thought he saw a knife, but the other officers could not confirm that statement. No one else saw a knife. The knife in question was recovered from the floorboards of the SUV. Where it was prior to that was unknown. Again, only one officer made the claim of seeing a knife and the others on the scene would not backup that claim.



This is bull####. Blake was actually unaware any warrants for him existed and he never raped or sexually assaulted his ex. She made it up to extract money out of him. Did they have a rocky relationship? Yes, they did. Did he rape or assault her? Nope. Was a pain in her ass, but never stuck anything in that ass after they separated. He ended up getting hit with a misdemeanor for disorderly conduct for taking her car, and everything else was dropped.

Here's the dispatch audio and a timeline of what happened. Just in case anyone wants to hear what went over the airways. Then there's also the wiki page, which links through to a plethora of supporting documents that show the truth of what happened that day, and the relationship between Blake and his estranged ex.

Should be noted that Blake was attempting to leave when the 9/11 call was made by Blake's ex. She refused to provide details to the dispatcher that would have allowed the police to track the vehicle and diffuse the situation. She escalated the events to a level they did not need to get to. When you consider it took three minutes from her call to when Blake was shot seven times in the back, things were obviously already to a heightened state of alert when officers arrived and that was going to result in a confrontation.

Blake was obviously not an upstanding individual and had differences with his ex-girl friend, but based on the evidence in the complaint, her call to 9/11, and her refusal to cooperate with dispatch in providing information, she escalated this to a point where something catastrophic was likely to happen.



Thankfully it didn't happen at all like you're suggesting. There was a thread on this, I think buried in the Flloyd shooting thread, and it was clearly beat to death and the usual suspects were wrong as the facts came to light.



That was as close to an execution as you can get. 7 rounds from point blank range into the back. It is a miracle he survived.

This entire post is complete horse poop. Sure if you don’t want to take the police’s statement as truth, or the video, or the witnesses, what about Blake himself?

"I'm rattled, you know?" Blake said. "I realized I had dropped my knife, had a little pocket knife. So I picked it up after I got off of him because they Tased me and I fell on top of him."

With an open knife in his hand which Blake said fell out of his pocket, he walked around the front of the vehicle toward the driver side.

But then again he is a violent rapist so maybe we shouldn’t trust him. And apparently dead if we go by your previous posts. lol

As for blaming the domestic abuse victim as trying to extort money? Absolutely gross.

There had been numerous 911 calls by Booker over the years and she had made statements that he beat, choked and raped her multiple times. She didn’t cooperate with the police, they couldn’t get her to court, so the charges were dropped. Again, this is a fairly common in domestic violent situations. But let’s blame the victim and make her a criminal.

So much for being the champion of facts.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by OptimalTates

This entire post is complete horse poop. Sure if you don’t want to take the police’s statement as truth, or the video, or the witnesses, what about Blake himself?

But then again he is a violent rapist so maybe we shouldn’t trust him. And apparently dead if we go by your previous posts. lol

As for blaming the domestic abuse victim as trying to extort money? Absolutely gross.

There had been numerous 911 calls by Booker over the years and she had made statements that he beat, choked and raped her multiple times. She didn’t cooperate with the police, they couldn’t get her to court, so the charges were dropped. Again, this is a fairly common in domestic violent situations. But let’s blame the victim and make her a criminal.

So much for being the champion of facts.

Um, yeah, facts.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/11/u...nts/index.html

https://abcnews.go.com/US/family-inv...ry?id=72675684

The fact is that the complainant couldn't convince the District Attorney that anything had happened, which is why the only charge that could stick was the disorderly conduct misdemeanor. Please provide more proof or your "facts" of the relationship between Blake and his estranged ex, because there is no record of anything to support any claims. If she were really that abused, she would have had her live-in aunt substantiate the claims. Fact of the matter is, she didn't substantiate any claims, which is why the whole thing fell apart. But we should believe the compulsive liar whose own aunt wouldn't back up the claims.

I suspect we have a Rebel reader here. Hmmm, as I read through the language and reference some past posts, this smells very much like the return of MelBridgeman.

[OptimalTates]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Um, yeah, facts.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/11/u...nts/index.html

https://abcnews.go.com/US/family-inv...ry?id=72675684

The fact is that the complainant couldn't convince the District Attorney that anything had happened, which is why the only charge that could stick was the disorderly conduct misdemeanor. Please provide more proof or your "facts" of the relationship between Blake and his estranged ex, because there is no record of anything to support any claims. If she were really that abused, she would have had her live-in aunt substantiate the claims. Fact of the matter is, she didn't substantiate any claims, which is why the whole thing fell apart. But we should believe the compulsive liar whose own aunt wouldn't back up the claims.

I suspect we have a Rebel reader here. Hmmm, as I read through the language and reference some past posts, this smells very much like the return of MelBridgeman.

I assume you're conceding he did have a knife then?

https://www.kenoshacounty.org/Docume...of-Jacob-Blake

In the months following August 23, 2020, not only has DCI been unable to reach Laquisha
Booker, but Walworth County District Attorney Zeke Wiedenfeld had also been unable to
locate her. DA Wiedenfeld had been assigned to prosecute as a special prosecutor Kenosha
County Circuit Court File Number 20CF736. In that case, Laquisha Booker had reported to
officers of the Kenosha Police Department that on May 3, 2020, Jacob Blake had broken into
her residence at 2805 40th St. Laquisha Booker told police that Jacob Blake had sexually
assaulted her and then stolen her car keys and her vehicle and her debit card.
In that case, Jacob Blake was charged with Criminal Trespass, Domestic Abuse; Third
Degree Sexual Assault, Domestic Abuse; and Disorderly Conduct, Domestic Abuse. The
charges were filed on July 6, 2020 and a warrant was issued for Jacob Blake’s arrest. This is
the warrant for which police were attempting to arrest Jacob Blake on August 23rd. The trial
in that case was scheduled for November 9, 2020. As the victim, Laquisha Booker was an
essential witness at trial; however, leading up to trial DA Wiedenfeld could not locate her and,
as a result, the case was resolved on November 6, 2020 when Jacob Blake entered a plea to
reduced charges.
The absence of Laquisha Booker as a witness is very concerning; yet, it is in keeping with the
domestic violence context of this case. Laquisha Booker has called the police due to
domestic disputes with Jacob Blake numerous times over the last eight years. Laquisha
Booker has reported to police that Jacob Blake has hit her, choked her, and, most recently,
on May 3, 2020, that he sexually assaulted her. Four of these calls to the police have
involved in some way disputes over vehicles or keys to vehicles. According to a police report
from the Zion Police Department, in 2012, Laquisha Booker called the police to report that
Jacob Blake had domestically assaulted her. As the police responded, Jacob Blake wrestled
Laquisha Booker’s keys away from her, sped off in her car fleeing from police, and then
crashed her car.
In spite of this history, Laquisha Booker and Jacob Blake still share three children together,
and, based on an examination of the evidence from Jacob Blake’s cell phone, it appears that
he and Laquisha Booker were still in communication after the May 3rd domestic violence and
sexual assault allegations. As Laquisha Booker stated to the 911 dispatcher, she had
allowed Jacob Blake to be at her residence on August 23rd as they were celebrating their
son’s birthday.

They could not substantiate the claims because she refused to speak to them. Ray Rice's wife apologized for getting knocked unconscious. Voynov's wife said it was all a mistranslation. We can pull up 1000s of domestic violence cases where the woman retracted her statement or failed to help the police. https://ifstudies.org/blog/eight-rea...-relationships

But now would you mind bringing up why you have this notion that the woman was trying to extort money from her unemployed ex-boyfriend?

I do not quite understand your insult (?) in your last sentence.

[OptimalTates]

It is actually really sad that the biggest victim in this whole ordeal, Ms. Booker, is being called a compulsive liar and a criminal trying to extort money. It is no wonder she did not want to talk to police and go to court, she would have been crucified by the public for not confirming the fake narratives being told. I mean she was already called a "Karen who got a Black man shot" before much of anything was out.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by OptimalTates

I assume you're conceding he did have a knife then?

Never questioned it, except to say that it was discovered in the car and only one of seven officers on the scene claimed to have seen Blake holding the knife. None of the other officers would support this claim.

https://www.kenoshacounty.org/Docume...of-Jacob-Blake

Nothing in this document changes anything already stated. It is a long form narrative of everything already said.

They could not substantiate the claims because she refused to speak to them. Ray Rice's wife apologized for getting knocked unconscious. Voynov's wife said it was all a mistranslation. We can pull up 1000s of domestic violence cases where the woman retracted her statement or failed to help the police. https://ifstudies.org/blog/eight-rea...-relationships

His ex was out of the relationship. There was no relationship other than the kids they had together. The only relationship they had was confrontational and stressed in nature. His ex was NOT going to go back with him, nor was she on good terms with him. She was not going to bury a charge out of compassion, sympathy, or love for her ex. The relationship was long over and both had moved on. If there was something there she would have taken him to the wall.

But now would you mind bringing up why you have this notion that the woman was trying to extort money from her unemployed ex-boyfriend?

She wanted support payments for the kids they had together. He was a deadbeat dad and she was always hounding him for money. That's the motivation for the complaint. Make him play ball.

I do not quite understand your insult (?) in your last sentence.

Yes you do, Mel. Yes you do. You're way too obvious.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by OptimalTates

It is actually really sad that the biggest victim in this whole ordeal, Ms. Booker, is being called a compulsive liar and a criminal trying to extort money. It is no wonder she did not want to talk to police and go to court, she would have been crucified by the public for not confirming the fake narratives being told. I mean she was already called a "Karen who got a Black man shot" before much of anything was out.

It's a complicated issue. Blake was in breach of a probation order, which is a very big deal in domestic violence cases to begin with.

It also seems very reckless of the police officers to fire into the vehicle, knowing that there were 3 children inside.

This also raises issues for all black women in the USA. How are they supposed to report domestic violence to the police, when they know an overly heavy handed response is awaiting their abuser, who is typically also their partner.

[OptimalTates]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Never questioned it, except to say that it was discovered in the car and only one of seven officers on the scene claimed to have seen Blake holding the knife. None of the other officers would support this claim.

You said he was unarmed and then when I said he had a knife you said, and I quote, "That was not confirmed in any shape or fashion.". But both the person who shot, the person who got shot and the video showed the knife. So yes, there was confirmation. What else do you need?

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Nothing in this document changes anything already stated. It is a long form narrative of everything already said.

You said she was a compulsive liar looking to extort her ex-partner for money. Yet he was unemployed and she was paying for his vehicle. Please back up the statement that she is a liar and that she was looking to extort him.

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

His ex was out of the relationship. There was no relationship other than the kids they had together. The only relationship they had was confrontational and stressed in nature. His ex was NOT going to go back with him, nor was she on good terms with him. She was not going to bury a charge out of compassion, sympathy, or love for her ex. The relationship was long over and both had moved on. If there was something there she would have taken him to the wall.

https://www.cbs42.com/news/national/...ssault-charge/

She went on to tell police, as she was lying down on her bed, Blake reached between her legs, used his finger to penetrate her vaginally, pulled it out, sniffed it and said, ”Smells like you’ve been with other men,” according to the criminal complaint.

The officer who filed the report said she “had a very difficult time” describing the assault and cried as she recounted the details. She told police the defendant assaulted her and then the defendant immediately left the bedroom.

The woman told police the assault caused her pain and humiliation and was done without her consent.

The complaint states she told police she “was upset but collected herself” and then ran out after Blake. She then realized her car was missing, went back inside to check her purse, saw her keys and debit card were missing and then “immediately called 911.”

The woman told police she knew Blake for eight years and had three children with him. She claims in the time she has known Blake he “has physically assaulted her around twice a year when he drinks heavily.”

Raping someone you have moved on from?

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

She wanted support payments for the kids they had together. He was a deadbeat dad and she was always hounding him for money. That's the motivation for the complaint. Make him play ball.

Paying for a vehicle for someone that your trying to get money from is sort of the opposite of what I would expect.

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Yes you do, Mel. Yes you do. You're way too obvious.

I guess personal insults when you can't substantiate the claims?

https://www.familyjusticecenter.org/...ht-to-justice/

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north...ries-1.1289225

https://www.verywellmind.com/why-do-...s-recant-66537

https://ifstudies.org/blog/eight-rea...-relationships

The police, victim services and the courts see it all too often: victims of domestic abuse change their minds, recant their stories and go back to their violent partners.

The public prosecution office doesn't have statistics on how often victims recant their accounts on the stand.

Arlene Hache, from the Centre for Northern Families in Yellowknife, said this problem happens often.

"Probably 80 per cent of the women that I speak to recant their story, or regret reporting it," she said.

It could be that “he’s a good dad and I need a good baby sitter,” Winnebago County State’s Attorney Marilyn Hite Ross said.

Hite Ross couldn’t say how often domestic violence victims recant, but during an interview last year she asked one of her office’s domestic violence attorneys for an estimate and was told “this week alone, between five and eight people,” she said.

Now keep in mind she did not even recant her story, she simply failed to talk to investigators. She would be going against statistics if she did proceed and add on the international attention it's not a surprise she went into hiding.

I have a feeling your part of that MGTOW and believe that all women are liars out to get men. There is zero evidence to support your claim that she is a compulsive liar. Zero.

[OptimalTates]

Originally Posted by blankall

It's a complicated issue. Blake was in breach of a probation order, which is a very big deal in domestic violence cases to begin with.

It also seems very reckless of the police officers to fire into the vehicle, knowing that there were 3 children inside.

This also raises issues for all black women in the USA. How are they supposed to report domestic violence to the police, when they know an overly heavy handed response is awaiting their abuser, who is typically also their partner.

I would prefer not to watch the video again but I do recall the shots were more parallel to the vehicle instead of into it. I could be mistaken though. I think it was very much a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation for the officers. They tried all they could, including less than lethal force with a taser and literally ripping his shirt off and then they either had to let him take the car and the kids on a high speed pursuit or endanger them with a knife. I don't think this was at all like a Breonna Taylor, Eric Garner, Elijah McClain or even a Rayshard Brooks situation. Blake is the one to blame.

To your last point, I think you're absolutely correct. I mean even Ms. Booker noted it saying how she didn't want to call police at all in her 911 call. But probably the worst thing we can do to domestic abuse victims is pull a Lanny_McDonald and call them compulsive liars for no reason because now even if things do work out for them they are still villainized. I wonder if she was white with the name Jane Smith if she would be called a liar and extortionist with no proof or is it just because she is named Laquisha?

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by OptimalTates

You said he was unarmed and then when I said he had a knife you said, and I quote, "That was not confirmed in any shape or fashion.". But both the person who shot, the person who got shot and the video showed the knife. So yes, there was confirmation. What else do you need?

There was no conclusive evidence that Blake had a knife on him outside of the vehicle. NONE. You have a blob-squatch screen capture that YOU have interpreted as a knife (just like Mel did). It could have been anything including his cellphone. Again, of seven officers on the scene, not one will backup what the one who called for a knife. NOT ONE.

You said she was a compulsive liar looking to extort her ex-partner for money. Yet he was unemployed and she was paying for his vehicle. Please back up the statement that she is a liar and that she was looking to extort him.

Except for the claim of sexual assault, which she completely backed away from when it came to take the complaint to the charge level.

https://www.cbs42.com/news/national/...ssault-charge/

Which he pled not guilty, and was later exonerated of the charge when it was dropped. The only thing that stuck was disorderly conduct, because this is the only thing his ex's aunt would back up.

Raping someone you have moved on from?

You keep using that term like Blake was convicted of the charge. He WAS NOT. He was cleared of all charged relating to sexual assault. He was CLEARED.

Paying for a vehicle for someone that your trying to get money from is sort of the opposite of what I would expect.

Paying for the vehicle? Torn right from the pages of The Rebel. Sure you're not MelBridgeman.

BTW, the claim in that story that Blake had taken money out his ex's account was yet another fabrication (lie) perpetrated by his ex in an attempt to corner Blake. The police were able to trace this back and discover who took the money out. The one with the trouble with the truth.

I guess personal insults when you can't substantiate the claims?

It ain't a personal insult, it's just who you are. You're repeating the exact same stuff you did when this went down, and the sources are obvious. So stop with the little act, you get your stuff from extreme RW propaganda sources and try and pass them off as facts, when they are nothing more than urban legends circulated around the right wing blogosphere.

https://www.familyjusticecenter.org/...ht-to-justice/

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north...ries-1.1289225

https://www.verywellmind.com/why-do-...s-recant-66537

https://ifstudies.org/blog/eight-rea...-relationships

News flash. Women will make accusations of violence or sexual assault against their ex-partners to abuse them or leverage things out of them, like money, possessions, custody of children, alimony, etc. This happens a to to police officers, because as soon as one of those accusations is made, the officer is on the shelf until cleared. And because it is almost always he-said-she-said, the officer gets screwed and has to resign because of potential negative outcomes to the department. The same thing happens in other relationships as well.

Now keep in mind she did not even recant her story, she simply failed to talk to investigators. She would be going against statistics if she did proceed and add on the international attention it's not a surprise she went into hiding.

She wouldn't support her own claims. No one would. Hence them falling apart and Blake being acquitted. He's a scumbag deadbeat dad, but he isn't half of what you label him. Conversely, his ex is not a saint, and was proven to be a less than reliable witness to her own allegations. She got caught in lie after lie.

I have a feeling your part of that MGTOW and believe that all women are liars out to get men. There is zero evidence to support your claim that she is a compulsive liar. Zero.

Oh Mel, don't project your incell feelings on me. I take people at face value and try to wait for the facts to come out. Working in law enforcement for almost 12 years made me very aware of the games people play and how people with axes to grind will try and use the law and law enforcement to their advantage. I look at the behaviors of people and can quickly see the archetypes that make up almost every DR. When it comes to family violence there are types as well. Most of the women are believable and deserve protection. Then there are those that gin up stories to try and screw their ex. Blake and his ex are definitely one of those situations. Again, she couldn't even get her live-in aunt to back up any of the accusations. You don't think she would spill her guts to her aunt the minute something like a sexual assault took place? Yeah, these are the behaviors you look for in these he-said-she-said cases. Neither of these people are saints, and Blake's ex definitely tried to pay the system to trap him into coughing up something of value.

[MoneyGuy]

Just saw a pic of Rittenhouse posing with the judge.

No chance we get the rightful conviction.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by MoneyGuy

Just saw a pic of Rittenhouse posing with the judge.

No chance we get the rightful conviction.

That's messed up. Would this be considered judicial malfeasance? Means of appeal?

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by MoneyGuy

Just saw a pic of Rittenhouse posing with the judge.

No chance we get the rightful conviction.

... posing how? Conflict of interest "I know this kid" posing, or something far less nefarious?