08-22-2019, 05:08 PM
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#381
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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The worst part of the Sanchez debacle for United is it seemed pretty clear he was only going there for money from the start. I suppose you could never expect him to fall this far off the cliff, but it was always fraught with huge risk.
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08-22-2019, 06:24 PM
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#382
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Spartanville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
The worst part of the Sanchez debacle for United is it seemed pretty clear he was only going there for money from the start. I suppose you could never expect him to fall this far off the cliff, but it was always fraught with huge risk.
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Isn't every transfer always fraught with huge risk? How at the time did you perceive that transfer to be a huge risk compared to others?
They got him for free managing to dump Welbeck on Arsenal. He'll cost them roughly 80M on wages.
The problem is you're only focusing on that.
Do you see Maguire as a huge risk? His cost of acquisition before salary is equal to Sanchez's total cost? Is Pepe a huge risk?
Your statement is simply a hindsight statement and can be applied to pretty much any transaction.
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08-22-2019, 07:09 PM
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#383
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
The worst part of the Sanchez debacle for United is it seemed pretty clear he was only going there for money from the start. I suppose you could never expect him to fall this far off the cliff, but it was always fraught with huge risk.
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Its not even just the risk that his performance wouldnt merit his wages, which was an issue, they made it a systemic problem.
Players who were outperforming him were pointing at his wages and using it as their benchmark, as was their right. Its always dangerous having a hugely compensated player who isnt worth his money.
De Gea is a good example. Despite having a poor season by his standards he still played far better and a far more important role in the squad and when it came time to renegotiate his wages who does he point the finger at? Sanchez.
Sanchez became a problem for the dressing room, the manager and the boardroom and as with any negotiation another team sees United as dealing from a position of weakness because they want to dump this guy so he isnt around anymore, so they're going to squeeze every Euro they can out of the deal.
He simply isnt worth what hes paid to any prospective buyer, United wont like it but then it depends on how badly they want him gone.
City did the same thing for years overpaying underperforming players and wound up just letting them sit because no other team was ever going to come close to the wages they were getting until circumstances changed.
United's option is to keep him, but his wage packet, by existence alone, is dragging everyone else's up making the problem worse.
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08-22-2019, 07:13 PM
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#384
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Spartanville
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Lol
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08-23-2019, 05:54 AM
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#385
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
I think you have this scenario backwards here - United are the ones more desperate to be rid of Sanchez, than Inter are the ones to want Sanchez.
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Originally Posted by Locke
They're not obligated to fix United's mistakes.
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Originally Posted by agulati
Honestly, Man. Utd got themselves into this mess. It is not up to other teams to get them out of it.
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all of that is true. I just don't see Inter as the knights in shiny armour that come to save United by offering to pay Sanchez 25% of his wages to take him on loan. They don't inquire about Sanchez because they want to help United, they inquire about Sanchez because they see value in getting him. It all comes down to how desperately United want to get rid of him. I don't see value in paying 75% of his wages while he plays for another club, that makes little sense to me. United have a limited number of attackers as it is, might as well keep him if that's what Inter are offering.
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08-24-2019, 08:21 AM
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#386
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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I didn't see the whole game, but it was hard to say whether Norwich looked good or Chelsea looked bad. In the end, Chelsea got the win, but they sure don't look like a top four team at this point.
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08-24-2019, 08:36 AM
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#387
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Van City - Main St.
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Pukki with 5 goals in 3 games now, impressive.
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08-24-2019, 09:26 AM
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#388
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slava
I didn't see the whole game, but it was hard to say whether Norwich looked good or Chelsea looked bad. In the end, Chelsea got the win, but they sure don't look like a top four team at this point.
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Chelsea cant defend when the attackers come at speed.. Mount looks really good. Barkley and Emerson are sorely lacking in creativity. Zouma should not be starting for a top club.
I like watching Norwich - they make the game entertaining, win or lose. Hope to see a 7-3 scoreline against MCI.
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08-24-2019, 09:32 AM
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#389
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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So who is up next for Man U to take a penalty?
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08-24-2019, 09:34 AM
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#390
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I believe in the Jays.
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VAR doesn't seem to have cleared much up for penalty calls yet.
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08-24-2019, 09:38 AM
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#391
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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you expect English refs to be brutal, but hats off to Paul Tierney. Takes a truly terrible ref to stand out from the sad crowd.
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08-24-2019, 09:51 AM
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#392
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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In about 5 seconds you got the two sides of Pogba there.
Bad giveaway, then a great tackle, and then a great ball to set up the goal
Edit: And then another giveaway that led to the Palace counter for likely the winner.
Last edited by SuperMatt18; 08-24-2019 at 09:53 AM.
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08-24-2019, 09:55 AM
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#393
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Great tackle by Benteke to start that break. That is awful from De Gea though.
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08-24-2019, 10:31 AM
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#394
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Over/Under on Xhaka getting ejected?
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08-24-2019, 11:47 AM
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#395
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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David Luiz is having a doozy today.
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08-24-2019, 12:29 PM
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#396
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
David Luiz is having a doozy today.
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Always good for a couple of goals.
Is Emery a little league coach?
"Play the ball from the back!!"
- But they're killing us!!
"I said Play. The Ball. From. The. Back!!"
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08-24-2019, 12:31 PM
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#397
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Join Date: Apr 2012
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Playing from the back wasn't as dumb as giving Robertson and Alexander-Arnold the entire left and right half of the field to operate. They must have been bored with how easy it was.
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08-24-2019, 12:36 PM
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#398
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
Playing from the back wasn't as dumb as giving Robertson and Alexander-Arnold the entire left and right half of the field to operate. They must have been bored with how easy it was.
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Its clearly both, but the problem was that they'd play from the back and then lose the ball and then Liverpool were owning the middle and operating completely free on the wings.
I'll take the win, its a shame it wasnt a clean-sheet, but take the points and move along.
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08-25-2019, 09:59 AM
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#399
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Man our back 4 is unreliable. Sanchez just completely out of position on that first goal.
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08-25-2019, 10:00 AM
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#400
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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'Joelinton' sounds like a half-assed Witness Protection Cover name.
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