08-23-2019, 02:46 PM
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#1461
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I believe in the Jays.
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Kitsilano
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Looking forward to Gurriel Jr returning. Sounds like his leg is improving.
Vlad over his last 30 games has been ridiculous: .380/.446/.676, 13 BB, 17K, 7 HR, 1.122 OPS.
Biggio on the other hand has been absolutely awful. .181/296/.319, 19 BB, 42K, 4 HR.
I think it's clear that Bichette and Vlad are legit big leaguers who can produce. Gurriel Jr is good, and his numbers over a full season show a guy who has hit 30 HR, and a very decent OPS+ of 119. Absolutely good pieces.
Biggio has some pretty big question marks and I wonder if he is a true MLB every day player. It's obvious he aligns with the "values" that Atkins etc drones on about a little too much, and has the sort of clubhouse intangibles that teams value, but I really wonder if he is actually any good.
The Jays need to develop another bat. Jordan Groshans is likely at least two years away, same with Gabriel Moreno, Alejandro Kirk, Orelvis Martinez, Miguel Hiraldo and others I know I am missing. Kevin Smith has been disappointing this year so I wonder if he will actually see the majors.
6 months ago I would say the Jays were top heavy with hitting prospects and really a dearth of pitching prospects. Now with Bo and Vlad in the show they have quite a few pitching prospects and no real good bats arriving in the near future. I guess it's a little unfair of me to see a team promote two prodigious bats this season and to just say "ok more please" but I think the Jays do need at least one more good/very good hitter.
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08-23-2019, 03:05 PM
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#1462
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flames_fan_down_under
Looking forward to Gurriel Jr returning. Sounds like his leg is improving.
Vlad over his last 30 games has been ridiculous: .380/.446/.676, 13 BB, 17K, 7 HR, 1.122 OPS.
Biggio on the other hand has been absolutely awful. .181/296/.319, 19 BB, 42K, 4 HR.
I think it's clear that Bichette and Vlad are legit big leaguers who can produce. Gurriel Jr is good, and his numbers over a full season show a guy who has hit 30 HR, and a very decent OPS+ of 119. Absolutely good pieces.
Biggio has some pretty big question marks and I wonder if he is a true MLB every day player. It's obvious he aligns with the "values" that Atkins etc drones on about a little too much, and has the sort of clubhouse intangibles that teams value, but I really wonder if he is actually any good.
The Jays need to develop another bat. Jordan Groshans is likely at least two years away, same with Gabriel Moreno, Alejandro Kirk, Orelvis Martinez, Miguel Hiraldo and others I know I am missing. Kevin Smith has been disappointing this year so I wonder if he will actually see the majors.
6 months ago I would say the Jays were top heavy with hitting prospects and really a dearth of pitching prospects. Now with Bo and Vlad in the show they have quite a few pitching prospects and no real good bats arriving in the near future. I guess it's a little unfair of me to see a team promote two prodigious bats this season and to just say "ok more please" but I think the Jays do need at least one more good/very good hitter.
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Yeah, Biggio is certainly not on the same level as Vlad and Bo, but that's not surprising or disappointing really. You hope it's just a bit of a learning curve, but MLB pitchers seem to have figured him out. Hopefully he can adjust.
Danny Jansen has been sporting an .865 OPS for two months now, so his bat is definitely an asset if he can produce in that range going forward. Especially with his elite level defense so far.
Plus Hernandez has an .848 OPS since being recalled on June 5th. I don't know if it's sustainable long term, but if he's able to maintain that production with his bat he will also be a valuable piece with his defense also looking like it's improved.
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08-23-2019, 04:48 PM
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#1463
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto
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Is tonight's matchup Thornton vs King Felix?
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08-23-2019, 04:54 PM
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#1464
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I believe in the Jays.
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Kitsilano
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Looks like it's Justus Sheffield pitching for the M's but you're right it's Thornton for the Blue Jays. Justus Sheffield has been a top 100 prospect for the last 4 years but his numbers in AAA this season haven't been great. I am predicting a big weekend for Vlad Jr.
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08-23-2019, 07:51 PM
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#1465
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Biggio has been bumped from the 2 hole.
1. SS Bo Bichette R
2. LF Derek Fisher L
3. DH V. Guerrero Jr. R
4. RF R. Grichuk R
5. 1B Justin Smoak S
6. CF T. Hernandez R
7. 2B Cavan Biggio L
8. 3B B. Drury R C
9. R. McGuire L
Hopefully he can find a groove down there, and maybe it'll spark Fisher as well.
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08-23-2019, 08:40 PM
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#1467
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I believe in the Jays.
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Kitsilano
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Weird that Thornton is wearing a black hat while his teammates are all wearing white hats.
EDIT: I guess pitchers have to wear a black hat because a white hat might mask the ball.
Last edited by flames_fan_down_under; 08-23-2019 at 08:46 PM.
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08-23-2019, 09:18 PM
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#1468
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Damn Biggio just missed that 3 run homer. Shoot
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08-23-2019, 09:23 PM
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#1469
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And then Mcguire hooks a 3 run homer just foul.
6 men LOB in 3 innings. Sheffield should have been buried under 7 or 8 runs already for #### sakes.
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08-23-2019, 09:29 PM
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#1470
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####ing thornton. As if walking the lead off guy after having him down 0-2 isn't bad enough, he gifts him 2nd base too by throwing a pick off attempt down the line.
Pull your head out FFS
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08-23-2019, 09:31 PM
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#1471
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And then seager rips a double to tie it again.
I guess the seager brothers are making it their mission in life to make sure the jays draft top 5???
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08-23-2019, 09:51 PM
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#1472
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I wonder if Thornton could ever have a clean 3 up 3 down inning. Guy is just easy pickings lately
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08-23-2019, 10:05 PM
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#1473
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I believe in the Jays.
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Kitsilano
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Thornton getting touched up today.
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08-23-2019, 10:08 PM
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#1474
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flames_fan_down_under
Thornton getting touched up today.
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His velocity is down and his control is terrible.
He's pretty much unwatchable garbage right now.
Thank goodness he's finally out
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08-24-2019, 11:52 AM
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#1475
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Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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6 game losing streak. Lets get a W tonight!
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08-24-2019, 06:59 PM
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#1476
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Hope to see the offense put up some crooked numbers tonight. They were threatening last night but just couldnt cash in.
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08-24-2019, 10:01 PM
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#1477
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If Bo Bichette is really this good we are gonna have a lot of fun watching him for a long time.
He is ripping the MLB to shreds.
3 for 5 tonight with a HR a 2B and 3 RBI.
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08-24-2019, 10:05 PM
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#1478
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I feel bad for Biggio right now.
All the guy does is walk, strike out (lots of times due to #### calls from umps) and hit the ball hard right at people.
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08-24-2019, 10:09 PM
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#1479
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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It really is crazy to watch Bo right now. He's basically unstoppable. Quite the start to his career.
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