09-22-2022, 11:47 AM
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#101
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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Originally Posted by Bingo
Even if you don't like the player there is literally nothing to worry about.
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There is if his lack of talent in a game in March costs us to give up a goal when the playoffs are on the line...
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09-22-2022, 11:54 AM
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#102
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Bingo
Hate to say it ...
But signings like this are excellent in separating the pile for who actually understands what's going on and who doesn't.
At $750K he isn't taking up cap space, he isn't competing for a top nine role, he's free depth.
Even if you don't like the player there is literally nothing to worry about.
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There’s always something to worry about.
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09-22-2022, 11:56 AM
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#103
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Muta
There is if his lack of talent in a game in March costs us to give up a goal when the playoffs are on the line...
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2 goals in 7 games last year in the playoffs. Seems to be someone whose game improves in big games.
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09-22-2022, 12:16 PM
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#104
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Burning Beard
2 goals in 7 games last year in the playoffs. Seems to be someone whose game improves in big games.
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Nice strawman. Ritchie is a player we should worry about on the ice more than others, that's why he's a marginal fourth liner and will be used in a limited capacity and always has been. If he was a big game player as you suggest, he'd be more in demand / playing a bigger role / making a bigger salary than he currently is.
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09-22-2022, 12:35 PM
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#105
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Muta
Nice strawman. Ritchie is a player we should worry about on the ice more than others, that's why he's a marginal fourth liner and will be used in a limited capacity and always has been. If he was a big game player as you suggest, he'd be more in demand / playing a bigger role / making a bigger salary than he currently is.
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How is me posting literal facts a strawman? What a bizarre take.
Ritchie is a good player in his defined role. People love to rag on the guy for some reason but I feel like it's pretty unfounded. He had good analytics in his role last year and performed in the playoffs.
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09-22-2022, 12:43 PM
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#106
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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different players have different roles on different teams....many simply refuse to recognize this.
Ritchie fills his role to a tee and is a terrific fit on this club for what he is here to do.....at the lowest possible salary to boot.
Some are never happy about things though.
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09-22-2022, 12:54 PM
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#107
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Burning Beard
How is me posting literal facts a strawman? What a bizarre take.
Ritchie is a good player in his defined role. People love to rag on the guy for some reason but I feel like it's pretty unfounded. He had good analytics in his role last year and performed in the playoffs.
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Not the facts, your assessment. I liked Ritchie in last season's playoffs too, but suggesting he is a big game player is quite a stretch. He's played nine playoff games total in his career, seven of them this year. Those two goals are the only two playoff points he's ever accumulated. If he was a real 'big game' player, you wouldn't be seeing him sign last minute for bare minimum and used in limited capacities, as has been his career in the NHL.
Ritchie is a utility extra forward, and he had a decent playoffs this year, but let's not make him out to be something he isn't. To be a 'big game' player, we'd need to see more consistent 'big games' out of him... not a single-digit sample size.
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09-23-2022, 03:58 AM
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#108
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Franchise Player
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If there's a straw man in this room, it was put there by the guy who suggested Ritchie would cost the Flames a playoff spot through his inability to play in big games. Just saying.
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09-23-2022, 05:13 AM
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#109
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First Line Centre
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Ritchie had an excellent high-danger-chances-for to high-danger-chances-against ratio last year in his fourth line role. Really great defensive metrics in his role. Plus, he’s a good skater and physical. Very happy with this no-risk signing.
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09-23-2022, 07:25 AM
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#110
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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If Ritchie played full time I wouldn’t be shocked to get 10 goals out of him. He’s been inconsistent. But he’s never had consistency in linemates or the proper consistent role, at least not here.
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09-23-2022, 08:10 AM
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#111
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: F*** me. We're so f***ing good, you check the f***ing standings? Lets f***ing go! F***ing practice!
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I feel like people bashing him or acting like he is some kind of liability dont actually watch games but look at stat lines.
Ritchie is a big, tough, puck pursuit player. His forecheck is great, always skates hard, doesnt take dumb penalties and showed he has some underlying skill. He had a solid playoffs and I'm very happy he is back with the team.
Wont have to play w Sean Monahan as his center, I bet his production goes up this year
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09-23-2022, 08:11 AM
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#112
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Random
If there's a straw man in this room, it was put there by the guy who suggested Ritchie would cost the Flames a playoff spot through his inability to play in big games. Just saying.
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Nah. It was the guy who said he's a big game player. He's really not.
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09-23-2022, 08:14 AM
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#113
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Muta
There is if his lack of talent in a game in March costs us to give up a goal when the playoffs are on the line...
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Like the goal Johnny, Elias and Tkachuk gave up in overtime in game 5 against the Oilers?
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09-23-2022, 08:28 AM
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#114
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beatle17
Like the goal Johnny, Elias and Tkachuk gave up in overtime in game 5 against the Oilers?
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You mean like all the goals the entire team gave up repeatedly in that series, almost every game?
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09-23-2022, 08:37 AM
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#115
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Like the signing, he’s a perfect utility player. Put him in against bigger teams, the guy can hit. And not a complete liability on the 4th line.
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09-23-2022, 08:41 AM
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#116
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Aug 2018
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People worried about Sutter's usage of him need to remember he scored 2 goals in 2 games in the playoffs against the Oilers, and was still scratched for games 4 and 5. He was also scratched the game and following few after he scored his first of the year.
Sutter knows what he's doing and what Ritchie can bring. He's a perfectly fine 13th forward.
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09-23-2022, 09:45 AM
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#117
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
different players have different roles on different teams....many simply refuse to recognize this.
Ritchie fills his role to a tee and is a terrific fit on this club for what he is here to do.....at the lowest possible salary to boot.
Some are never happy about things though.
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Should be getting 50 goals out of a $750k player.
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09-24-2022, 09:04 PM
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#118
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Muta
You mean like all the goals the entire team gave up repeatedly in that series, almost every game?
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Given that this is the case, it seems odd that you would pick on Ritchie for potentially giving up a bad goal in March.
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09-25-2022, 12:16 AM
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#119
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Muta
There is if his lack of talent in a game in March costs us to give up a goal when the playoffs are on the line...
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If the Flames are that close to not making the playoff, we have more to worry about than adding Ritchie.
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09-25-2022, 02:32 AM
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#120
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SanFranFlamesFan
I sure hope he doesn't take Milano's spot. I feel like Milano could deliver much needed secondary scoring.
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I don't think we need to worry about that, Milano is here to compete for a top 9 spot, Ritchie won't be a consideration for that ice time.
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