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Old 09-22-2022, 11:47 AM   #101
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Even if you don't like the player there is literally nothing to worry about.
There is if his lack of talent in a game in March costs us to give up a goal when the playoffs are on the line...
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Old 09-22-2022, 11:54 AM   #102
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Hate to say it ...

But signings like this are excellent in separating the pile for who actually understands what's going on and who doesn't.

At $750K he isn't taking up cap space, he isn't competing for a top nine role, he's free depth.

Even if you don't like the player there is literally nothing to worry about.
There’s always something to worry about.
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There is if his lack of talent in a game in March costs us to give up a goal when the playoffs are on the line...
2 goals in 7 games last year in the playoffs. Seems to be someone whose game improves in big games.
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2 goals in 7 games last year in the playoffs. Seems to be someone whose game improves in big games.
Nice strawman. Ritchie is a player we should worry about on the ice more than others, that's why he's a marginal fourth liner and will be used in a limited capacity and always has been. If he was a big game player as you suggest, he'd be more in demand / playing a bigger role / making a bigger salary than he currently is.
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Nice strawman. Ritchie is a player we should worry about on the ice more than others, that's why he's a marginal fourth liner and will be used in a limited capacity and always has been. If he was a big game player as you suggest, he'd be more in demand / playing a bigger role / making a bigger salary than he currently is.
How is me posting literal facts a strawman? What a bizarre take.

Ritchie is a good player in his defined role. People love to rag on the guy for some reason but I feel like it's pretty unfounded. He had good analytics in his role last year and performed in the playoffs.
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different players have different roles on different teams....many simply refuse to recognize this.


Ritchie fills his role to a tee and is a terrific fit on this club for what he is here to do.....at the lowest possible salary to boot.

Some are never happy about things though.
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How is me posting literal facts a strawman? What a bizarre take.

Ritchie is a good player in his defined role. People love to rag on the guy for some reason but I feel like it's pretty unfounded. He had good analytics in his role last year and performed in the playoffs.
Not the facts, your assessment. I liked Ritchie in last season's playoffs too, but suggesting he is a big game player is quite a stretch. He's played nine playoff games total in his career, seven of them this year. Those two goals are the only two playoff points he's ever accumulated. If he was a real 'big game' player, you wouldn't be seeing him sign last minute for bare minimum and used in limited capacities, as has been his career in the NHL.

Ritchie is a utility extra forward, and he had a decent playoffs this year, but let's not make him out to be something he isn't. To be a 'big game' player, we'd need to see more consistent 'big games' out of him... not a single-digit sample size.
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If there's a straw man in this room, it was put there by the guy who suggested Ritchie would cost the Flames a playoff spot through his inability to play in big games. Just saying.
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Ritchie had an excellent high-danger-chances-for to high-danger-chances-against ratio last year in his fourth line role. Really great defensive metrics in his role. Plus, he’s a good skater and physical. Very happy with this no-risk signing.
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If Ritchie played full time I wouldn’t be shocked to get 10 goals out of him. He’s been inconsistent. But he’s never had consistency in linemates or the proper consistent role, at least not here.
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I feel like people bashing him or acting like he is some kind of liability dont actually watch games but look at stat lines.

Ritchie is a big, tough, puck pursuit player. His forecheck is great, always skates hard, doesnt take dumb penalties and showed he has some underlying skill. He had a solid playoffs and I'm very happy he is back with the team.

Wont have to play w Sean Monahan as his center, I bet his production goes up this year
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If there's a straw man in this room, it was put there by the guy who suggested Ritchie would cost the Flames a playoff spot through his inability to play in big games. Just saying.
Nah. It was the guy who said he's a big game player. He's really not.
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There is if his lack of talent in a game in March costs us to give up a goal when the playoffs are on the line...
Like the goal Johnny, Elias and Tkachuk gave up in overtime in game 5 against the Oilers?
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Like the goal Johnny, Elias and Tkachuk gave up in overtime in game 5 against the Oilers?
You mean like all the goals the entire team gave up repeatedly in that series, almost every game?
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Like the signing, he’s a perfect utility player. Put him in against bigger teams, the guy can hit. And not a complete liability on the 4th line.
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People worried about Sutter's usage of him need to remember he scored 2 goals in 2 games in the playoffs against the Oilers, and was still scratched for games 4 and 5. He was also scratched the game and following few after he scored his first of the year.

Sutter knows what he's doing and what Ritchie can bring. He's a perfectly fine 13th forward.
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different players have different roles on different teams....many simply refuse to recognize this.


Ritchie fills his role to a tee and is a terrific fit on this club for what he is here to do.....at the lowest possible salary to boot.

Some are never happy about things though.
Should be getting 50 goals out of a $750k player.
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You mean like all the goals the entire team gave up repeatedly in that series, almost every game?
Given that this is the case, it seems odd that you would pick on Ritchie for potentially giving up a bad goal in March.
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There is if his lack of talent in a game in March costs us to give up a goal when the playoffs are on the line...

If the Flames are that close to not making the playoff, we have more to worry about than adding Ritchie.
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I sure hope he doesn't take Milano's spot. I feel like Milano could deliver much needed secondary scoring.
I don't think we need to worry about that, Milano is here to compete for a top 9 spot, Ritchie won't be a consideration for that ice time.
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