Nhl 19

[bubbsy]

The fact that no real game play video has been made available has me nervous that it's another year of minimal meaningful change.

Annual proclamations of improved skating, hitting, physics yet again...... Not very hopeful.

I understand the economics of why the game doesn't improve much, year over year. What i don't get is how tge management team stays in tact, after basically doing nothing with the overall gameplay in a decade. The intro of the skillstick was innovative 10 years ago, but the game has not really improved at all, in my view, since then. In fact, it's clunkier, and more frustrating today.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Certainly by today's standards.

They actually did make an improvement one year when they tried "realistic skating" or some such - basically, momentum mattered, and you couldn't stop on a dime and go in the other direction arcade style, so if you skated yourself out of position you were absolutely ####ed. Little kids and ####ty casual players complained that this made them suddenly terrible at the game, and so they patched it out.

[bax]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

The fact that no real game play video has been made available has me nervous that it's another year of minimal meaningful change.

Annual proclamations of improved skating, hitting, physics yet again...... Not very hopeful.

I understand the economics of why the game doesn't improve much, year over year. What i don't get is how tge management team stays in tact, after basically doing nothing with the overall gameplay in a decade. The intro of the skillstick was innovative 10 years ago, but the game has not really improved at all, in my view, since then. In fact, it's clunkier, and more frustrating today.

I think your memory is hurting your here. Go back and try NHL 07 (first game with the skill stick) and you will be surprised by how terribly it has aged.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by bax

I think your memory is hurting your here. Go back and try NHL 07 (first game with the skill stick) and you will be surprised by how terribly it has aged.

That's what I was saying. The game hasn't improved at all in gameplay since tge inception of the skill stick.

[dobbles]

I look back fondly on the games of years past. The early skill stick era and the EASHL. The good times we had with the fatas. And when there would be half a dozen different threads active related to the game and the leagues that people had going. Taking the day off work for release day and playing all day long. Heck I remember one year driving around the Quad Cities looking for the game at midnight so I could go home and play with Joborule who had his copy early since he was an EA mod and part of teh gamechanger program they had.

Now its a smattering of tepid applause as few seem left that care. As many have noted, its amazing how the development team still has jobs.

One thing though about the idea of switching to an alternating year calendar.... Didn't they take an entire extra year off from next gen and then proceed to release a pretty dismal game? Memory may be fuzzy, but my recollection was even with tons of extra time, they still put out a stinker.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by dobbles

Didn't they take an entire extra year off from next gen and then proceed to release a pretty dismal game?

No

[Diemenz]

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Inferno is correct, at release NHL 15 did not include a bunch of regular features that had been in other games previously. They did however include OTP, EASHL etc in content updates later on.

[Inferno]

I remember hearing from people I know who work(ed) at EA that they started assembling the team a little earlier in the summer but they started working on it around their normal schedule and released it the next year. I tried hard landing a job there during that summer but it didn't work out.

[dobbles]

Originally Posted by Inferno

No

Looks like it is mostly how I remember it. They launched with a rather incomplete game despite having nearly the full development calendar. The PS4 release date was in November of 2013, so they didn't miss a year per-say as they always release in early September. So no fault on NHL 14 not being next gen obviously. But that means they had 10 fulls months after commercial release (not to mention any sort of lead time that EA had access before commercial release) And they managed to forget most of the game.

Don't let the allure of authentic arenas and improved NBC-branded commentary fool you - NHL 15 is a colossal disappointment. Missing modes like the six-on-six EASHL, GM Connected, and Live the Life, NHL 15 starts the game down a man. When you add the fact that existing modes like Be a Pro and Be A GM have been fundamentally stripped of essential features, it's downright insulting to hockey fans everywhere.

https://www.gameinformer.com/games/n...15-review.aspx

[Inferno]

What I think happened is they struggled moving it over to next gen and ran out of time and that's why they haven't moved over to the Frostbite engine yet. I can relate a little as I worked on a brand new 3D kids show called The Deep and we had alot of issues with the ocean and fell behind schedule.

But if they weren't going to take a year off to get it right they should have atleast not charged full price.

[Russic]

Every jump in generation is a bit of a step back because they often have to work with a new engine. If you look at the last couple games in each generation, they're often impressive in how many modes they have available (people may dislike them, but they're there). The first couple of each generation is always pretty bare.

[dobbles]

I get struggles. Who hasn't missed a deadline. But from my point of view, they are going on a decade without much to show. The next gen debacle was really just an example and something I thought of regarding the every other year model some suggested.

They are a small team, but they also get to leverage a lot from the other larger teams.

It's quite possible that I would have moved on regardless, I just miss being excited about the game.

[bax]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

That's what I was saying. The game hasn't improved at all in gameplay since tge inception of the skill stick.

Yes and I am disagreeing with you. Compare today's game to NHL 07 and it has come leaps and bounds

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by bax

Yes and I am disagreeing with you. Compare today's game to NHL 07 and it has come leaps and bounds

That's true, but I remember playing NHL 07 with a 1080p projector on a 100 inch screen, thinking to myself "Wow, you can see the stitching on the jerseys, damn..."

The player faces in NHL 07 looked atrocious, though.

[Kipper is King]

Originally Posted by dobbles

I look back fondly on the games of years past. The early skill stick era and the EASHL. The good times we had with the fatas. And when there would be half a dozen different threads active related to the game and the leagues that people had going. Taking the day off work for release day and playing all day long. Heck I remember one year driving around the Quad Cities looking for the game at midnight so I could go home and play with Joborule who had his copy early since he was an EA mod and part of teh gamechanger program they had.

Two words: Send me!

Also, I blame yellow.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by bax

Yes and I am disagreeing with you. Compare today's game to NHL 07 and it has come leaps and bounds

Given that it has been a decade, i would say the improvements are fairly meh.... I think the game was definitely better in tge last few years on old gen. The current new gen game is worse in game play compared to those, in my opinion.

[TheGingerbeardMan]

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[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by dobbles

I get struggles. Who hasn't missed a deadline. But from my point of view, they are going on a decade without much to show. The next gen debacle was really just an example and something I thought of regarding the every other year model some suggested.

They are a small team, but they also get to leverage a lot from the other larger teams.

It's quite possible that I would have moved on regardless, I just miss being excited about the game.

I miss playing the game with a dedicated group of guys but imo it's been a bad game for 5 years now and I just can't bring myself to spend money on it or devote time to such an inferior quality game experience.

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by dobbles

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