11-10-2018, 02:59 PM
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#161
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Originally Posted by cam_wmh
I pity you.
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Save it for the other people who have lost love ones to violence
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11-10-2018, 03:30 PM
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#162
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Craig McTavish' Merkin
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Save it for the other people who have lost love ones to violence
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Oh, we do. It's possible to feel the emotion of losing of loved one, or empathising with those who have, and still think rationally about how we should deal with people who have committed those acts.
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11-10-2018, 04:43 PM
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#163
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by DownInFlames
Oh, we do. It's possible to feel the emotion of losing of loved one, or empathising with those who have, and still think rationally about how we should deal with people who have committed those acts.
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I don't know about that. Losing a close family member to an act of senseless violence would change a person I would think.
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11-10-2018, 04:51 PM
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#164
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by DownInFlames
Oh, we do. It's possible to feel the emotion of losing of loved one, or empathising with those who have, and still think rationally about how we should deal with people who have committed those acts.
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Its not irrational to put justice and public safety at a higher priority then empathy. Empathy is an emotion, perhaps it is you who is being emotional.
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11-10-2018, 05:21 PM
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#166
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Tragedy is an opportunity that few have the strength to take.
You’ll never not be haunted by it Snuff, but use your experience as an opportunity to learn, because it will drive that. Don’t sit around happy to be ignorant and hateful. It’s easy, but it’s not the way to move forward with your life.
Some people never do, which is a very sad thing.
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The bolded X100.
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11-10-2018, 06:37 PM
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#167
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Snuff, maybe join a victim support group. Talking to people who have gone through what you have may help.
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11-10-2018, 06:38 PM
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#168
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Literally millions of people live with alzheimer's or another form of dementia and never do harm to another human being.
It's simple to me, despite his trouble past as a jewish nazi surviver he still murdered his wife and should pay the price for it.
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Literally millions of people feel empathy for that man and his situation. I would argue those who don’t are probably psychopaths.
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11-15-2018, 11:50 AM
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#169
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...gary-1.4906243
A German tourist, who visited Alberta to celebrate his 60th birthday, still requires 24/7 care and likely will never work again, says the Honorary German Consulate in Calgary.
"He is still very limited when it comes to communications, so he cannot speak and he can't walk … which has a huge impact of course on his life and of everyone else, his family," Honorary Consul Hubertus Liebrecht told CBC News in a phone interview, his first time speaking to media since the incident.
"It's very difficult to really make a reliable forecast at this point but he will never be able to work again, that seems to be sure."
Liebrecht said he's been contacted by many tourism agencies in Germany since the incident, inquiring about safety in Alberta.
Last edited by chemgear; 11-15-2018 at 11:52 AM.
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11-15-2018, 12:43 PM
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#170
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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I was wondering beyond the GoFundMe donations, will the Gov of Canada or Alberta help with his and his family's costs? Seems like that would be the least that should be done.
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11-15-2018, 01:08 PM
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#171
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Originally Posted by Wormius
I was wondering beyond the GoFundMe donations, will the Gov of Canada or Alberta help with his and his family's costs? Seems like that would be the least that should be done.
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I would assume the answer is no. I would also assume foreign governments would do the same for Canadians who are injured abroad by a criminal act.
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11-15-2018, 07:44 PM
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#172
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Originally Posted by Lubicon
I would assume the answer is no. I would also assume foreign governments would do the same for Canadians who are injured abroad by a criminal act.
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I guess. It would be my expectation that if I got shot in the States by some nut job that I would be paying out of pocket for that.
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10-18-2019, 10:06 AM
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Norm!
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Just saw that, I guess there was a facebook post by the shooter.
All I can say is Good.
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10-18-2019, 10:20 AM
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#1 Goaltender
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I don't quite understand how shooting the driver of a moving vehicle in the head isn't attempted murder.
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10-18-2019, 10:41 AM
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#176
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Originally Posted by 81MC
I don't quite understand how shooting the driver of a moving vehicle in the head isn't attempted murder.
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I'm not a lawyer but I would assume you have to prove intent to get an attempted murder conviction. I know. Shooting at people should always be considered a cogent attempt at murder. But I have to assume that was not proven here. It will be interesting to see the sentence though.
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10-18-2019, 10:48 AM
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#177
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Location: east van
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 81MC
I don't quite understand how shooting the driver of a moving vehicle in the head isn't attempted murder.
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The driving part is the wiggle room, defense would have argued that the shooter never really thought he would kill someone, you can't use that argument if you are standing 10 foot away from them, even if you didn't intend to kill them the law says you can be convicted because a reasonable person should assume it would kill them, but a random shot at a moving car gets a bit fuzzy
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10-18-2019, 01:38 PM
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#178
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by 81MC
I don't quite understand how shooting the driver of a moving vehicle in the head isn't attempted murder.
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I am sure you are very sick of this by now but...
That sounds more like a professional enquiry for work than a casual question... 
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10-18-2019, 02:57 PM
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#179
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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Der said the teen’s family is quite upset.
“Particularly his grandmother who I spoke to is quite upset. He’s a young guy and he’s been in jail for this. She’s quite upset he’s turning 18 in a week or two and they had other hopes and plans for his 18th birthday rather than being in jail,” said Der.
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This quote from Balfour Der is terrible. The kids misses his 18th, poor guy. Meanwhile the victim is paralyzed for life and has speech issues.
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10-18-2019, 03:16 PM
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#180
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Yeah, the victim had other plans, too. Like a normal life. **** the shooter.
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