Major Water Main Break in Bowness Area

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by GGG

You look at things like that and you see how close the city was to this being a complete non-issue that no one would have known about. It gets to December water use is low the system can make up the supply we have some excavations being done and some traffic diverted and no one ever under stands what the city avoided. Instead they are 6 months late with the plan and we all get to be water experts.

It is funny to think about how much people would have bitched about that (presuming 16th would get disrupted a fair bit) and confidently stated how it should be a much faster project that shouldn't have the audacity to impact roads because pipes should totally run somewhere else or something.

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

So the city itself isn't even doing the repairs themselves. They have sourced out the sections to other companies.

Someone I know who is starting on one section tomorrow said it's likely gonna be longer than 5 weeks.

The city doesn't have a team on standby 24/7 ready to lay 2 meter pipe? Shirley that exists somewhere within the Administrative Bloat Department that definitely always exists on all public works in a much different way than the private sector because we all say so, so it must be true even though we don't have any evidence other than the fact that everybody says it all the time so of course it's true!

[Zary's-Mustache]

Originally Posted by FurnaceFace

Or…there are 5 sections to fix and The City doesn’t have the required manpower to do all 5 so they’ve outsourced. Also we know from Rondo (I believe) the company he works for was working on the first break. This shouldn’t be a shock, it’s typical of most organizations.

Yeah thats exactly what I said.

[BlackArcher101]

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

Someone I know who is starting on one section tomorrow said it's likely gonna be longer than 5 weeks.

Tell him to buck up, we keep getting told the private sector would have this done faster.

[Zary's-Mustache]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Can you believe when you take your car to the mechanic they don't make the replacement parts themselves? Thanks Gondek!

What a dumb reply. Who said anything about the replacement parts? I said the city has hired companies and pulled them off other city jobs to do the repairs. The city is no longer doing the repairs themselves. They simply can't handle the scope of this job themselves..which is fine. Didn't need a sparky reply.

[Zary's-Mustache]

Originally Posted by BlackArcher101

Tell him to buck up, we keep getting told the private sector would have this done faster.

What I was told is the city can't handle a job of this scope and really those 2 injuries were from inexperience apparently using too thin a chain that snapped and injured 2 of their workers.

So being safe and using more experienced companies is probably going to take a bit longer but the job will be done right and safely. These companies like standard general (first company who who hired) and LBCO (another company who got hired) have way more experience doing jobs like this.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

What a dumb reply. Who said anything about the replacement parts? I said the city has hired companies and pulled them off other city jobs to do the repairs. The city is no longer doing the repairs themselves. They simply can't handle the scope of this job themselves..which is fine. Didn't need a sparky reply.

Lol

[surferguy]

Originally Posted by BlackArcher101

Interesting, so were replacing with just steel pipe instead of concrete. I imagine then that this pipe is thicker than the existing steel core of the PCCP to handle the pressure, I wonder how they are making that transition.

Probably use a shark bite.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by BlackArcher101

Interesting, so were replacing with just steel pipe instead of concrete. I imagine then that this pipe is thicker than the existing steel core of the PCCP to handle the pressure, I wonder how they are making that transition.

I’d assume you’d line the old concrete pipe with the steal piece and grout it into place. You’d extend past the defective area far enough.

From an internal pressure point of view the thing only needs to be around 3/8” thick I think. But it would need the concrete to give it strength from external loads. Can failed PCCP still handle external loads?

Edit: https://www.nwpipe.com/app/uploads/2...-ASCE-2012.pdf

This is neat and discusses some of the options and has notes from SAN Diego on how they do it. It sounds like they have done a little of everything but it notes when PCCP is taken out of the ground it’s replaced with steel.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

It is funny to think about how much people would have bitched about that (presuming 16th would get disrupted a fair bit) and confidently stated how it should be a much faster project that shouldn't have the audacity to impact roads because pipes should totally run somewhere else or something.




The city doesn't have a team on standby 24/7 ready to lay 2 meter pipe? Shirley that exists somewhere within the Administrative Bloat Department that definitely always exists on all public works in a much different way than the private sector because we all say so, so it must be true even though we don't have any evidence other than the fact that everybody says it all the time so of course it's true!

Don’t worry there will be plenty of non-critical work on this line in the future that people will complain about forgetting what can happen.

[Reggie Dunlop]

The main break has now been repaired and crews are filling the excavation.

Attention now turns to 5 other "hot spots."

https://calgaryherald.com/news/local...hift-hot-spots

[calgarygeologist]

I'm not going to be surprised if water usage was pretty high this weekend. I know that here in my house my kids needed to finally shower (they haven't showered since Wednesday night) and we had to do 5 loads of laundry. I'm guessing other families are probably in the same position.

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by surferguy

Probably use a shark bite.

Just send the newbie to Home Depot to pick up a 6’ Sharkbite.

[Zary's-Mustache]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

I'm not going to be surprised if water usage was pretty high this weekend. I know that here in my house my kids needed to finally shower (they haven't showered since Wednesday night) and we had to do 5 loads of laundry. I'm guessing other families are probably in the same position.

Did they not shower because of the water shortage? I don't want to sound rude but that is honestly ridiculous. Cleanliness is much more important than saving water. We aren't at a level where you should stop showering for 4 days.

[BlackArcher101]

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

Did they not shower because of the water shortage? I don't want to sound rude but that is honestly ridiculous. Cleanliness is much more important than saving water. We aren't at a level where you should stop showering for 4 days.

Does it matter? Kids are germ bags even with showers.

[CalgaryFan1988]

I'm not in Alberta anymore, but is it true you can't wash dishes or clothing but you can still go to a car wash?

Wishing everyone the best through this.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

I'm not in Alberta anymore, but is it true you can't wash dishes or clothing but you can still go to a car wash?

Wishing everyone the best through this.

.no.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

I'm not in Alberta anymore, but is it true you can't wash dishes or clothing but you can still go to a car wash?

Wishing everyone the best through this.

We're also only allowed to water our plants with gatorade.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Wormius

We're also only allowed to water our plants with gatorade.

Don't make stuff up, man. It's Brawndo only.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

I'm not in Alberta anymore, but is it true you can't wash dishes or clothing but you can still go to a car wash?

Wishing everyone the best through this.

No, there's no restrictions on indoor water use at all. They're asking people to be mindful, but that's it

[Bigtime]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Don't make stuff up, man. It's Brawndo only.

Wait, I thought we were supposed to be using Slurm.