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Old 02-02-2023, 09:21 AM   #9361
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He also has a NTC and may not want to disrupt his family.
I suspect he triggered his NTC during the off-season to block a potential trade, which instead lead to the Monahan deal.
Maybe, though the closer he gets to the end of the year, the less disruption there will be, since he would probably just relocate himself and his family would stay put (or go to wherever he sees himself going after the season ends).
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Old 02-02-2023, 10:05 AM   #9362
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I don’t get JVR at all. Often injured. 33 years old. Obvious decline. Was a goal scorer but not really scoring goals.

Me neither, so much James Neal vibes. Sure he can score given the chance but everything else he does is pretty horrible.
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Old 02-02-2023, 10:18 AM   #9363
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Just watching highlights of JVR goals from last year. He's a tipping and rebound machine. Pretty sure Keith Jones would refer to his "net front presence" seven times per game.
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Old 02-02-2023, 10:33 AM   #9364
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Lucic is going nowhere except maybe a pick if the Flames is out of the playoffs
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Old 02-02-2023, 10:36 AM   #9365
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Just watching highlights of JVR goals from last year. He's a tipping and rebound machine. Pretty sure Keith Jones would refer to his "net front presence" seven times per game.
We've been missing that since Tkachuk bolted.
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Old 02-02-2023, 11:13 AM   #9366
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Just watching highlights of JVR goals from last year. He's a tipping and rebound machine. Pretty sure Keith Jones would refer to his "net front presence" seven times per game.
For sure. It’s literally the only positive of his game imo.
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Old 02-02-2023, 11:19 AM   #9367
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I hope the Flames don't move their 1st.
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I hope the Flames don't move their 1st.
They won't. In the summer when Monny was moved Tre said moving the 2023 1st round pick with non negotiable.
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Old 02-02-2023, 11:34 AM   #9369
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They won't. In the summer when Monny was moved Tre said moving the 2023 1st round pick with non negotiable.
Non-negotiable in the Monahan trade context doesn't mean out of the question for another move. I hope we keep the pick, but you never know with this team.
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Old 02-02-2023, 11:51 AM   #9370
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I'd move it for Konecny.
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Just watching highlights of JVR goals from last year. He's a tipping and rebound machine. Pretty sure Keith Jones would refer to his "net front presence" seven times per game.
I don't love a lot about the player in terms of mileage and injury history, but this is the type of player that could have a big impact on this flames team that has a need for net front presence.

Is this team worth flipping a top prospect or first round pick for the guy? I'm not sure i'm convinced.
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Old 02-02-2023, 12:17 PM   #9372
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I don't love a lot about the player in terms of mileage and injury history, but this is the type of player that could have a big impact on this flames team that has a need for net front presence.

Is this team worth flipping a top prospect or first round pick for the guy? I'm not sure i'm convinced.
Yeah the Flames throw a ton of pucks on net. If more of them start getting tipped in...
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Old 02-02-2023, 12:19 PM   #9373
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Mangiapane should be that player

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Old 02-02-2023, 12:27 PM   #9374
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I'd move it for Konecny.
Me too. I would even add.
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Old 02-02-2023, 12:32 PM   #9375
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Me too. I would even add.
Who would you add to allow Konecny to fit under the salary cap the following season?
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Old 02-02-2023, 12:36 PM   #9376
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I do sometimes wonder about our PP mix - with Anderson, Lindholm, Toffoli all on the same PP unit. I feel like Toffoli and Lindholm might be too similar as static RH shooters and maybe flipping Toffoli and Mangiapane on the units would make sense.

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I actually hope that a lot of teams are out on Kane. He is exactly what the Flames need, despite his 'bad' season. He will make the PP, and puck movement significantly better. We don't need him to dig pucks out along the boards, and he looked great in transition in the games against us, which is exactly what we need.

Huberdeau - Lindholm - Kane would be just as good as the first line we had last year.

On the Lucic front, I doubt anyone would be interested, but if we can move him and gain any sort of asset it's worth it.
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Old 02-02-2023, 12:51 PM   #9378
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Who would you add to allow Konecny to fit under the salary cap the following season?
Rooney + someone from the defense.
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Old 02-02-2023, 12:58 PM   #9379
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The only move the flames should be making is a hockey deal, not a rental. Even if and that's a big if they make it into the playoffs the chances of this team doing anything is pretty slim. Not worth loosing picks over and over again just to get bounced.
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Old 02-02-2023, 01:11 PM   #9380
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I could see the Flames do Lucic a solid if they are out, and trade him to a contender. Flames would need to eat 50% and even then there might need to be a sentimental portion with a team like Boston. I doubt Boston would use their 2.3M space on Lucic, but the numbers almost work. That being said the Flames will keep Lucic and have him or a long playoff run.
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