08-12-2022, 11:30 AM
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#5361
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
I wonder if if this would just be a cap dump for the Flames? Send Lucic to Boston with Arizona eating 50% of the cap and Boston sends something back to the Yotes.
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It would be the Flames sending something back to the Yotes, otherwise they are getting rid of $5M of cap for nothing.
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08-12-2022, 11:32 AM
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#5362
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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If Boston really wants Lucic a couple of teams could get involved to chop the salary a couple of times. Flames and another team eat 50% he only counts as 1.3M but I don’t really want the Flames to have 2.625M in dead cap space.
Through the comments as well it so clear this is not an announcement for an upcoming interview
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08-12-2022, 11:36 AM
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#5363
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
It would be the Flames sending something back to the Yotes, otherwise they are getting rid of $5M of cap for nothing.
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My view is there is not a ton of incentive to pay to have someone take Lucic unless this clears the path for Kadri or they are getting another improved piece back. Definitely seems like there is a real desire to get the band back together from 2011. Lucic adds team toughness and veteran leadership and costs the flames little in salary.
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08-12-2022, 11:37 AM
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#5364
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Moscow
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Lucic + Valimaki for Hall
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Yes please.
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08-12-2022, 11:38 AM
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#5365
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
My view is there is not a ton of incentive to pay to have someone take Lucic unless this clears the path for Kadri or they are getting another improved piece back. Definitely seems like there is a real desire to get the band back together from 2011. Lucic adds team toughness and veteran leadership and costs the flames little in salary.
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I understand what Lucic adds but IMO he's not a guy that should be playing 82 games. He really ran out of gas in the 2nd half of the season and I hope Darryl manages him a little better next season.
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08-12-2022, 11:39 AM
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#5366
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Franchise Player
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In a world where Desauliers signed a 4 year deal worth 1.75 million a season, Lucic DEFINITELY has positive value at 50% of his cap hit right now.
Only one team can get involved, however, as Edmonton is already retaining on the deal. I think Lucic at 2.625 has real value here.
You get the (arguable) NHL's tougest heavyweight deterrent, plus you get a guy who is a great 4th liner, and you get a tonne of leadership.
Again, Desauliers (who I like, but not that much) signed a 4 year term. Lucic is still the better player, the tougher player, and the better leader.
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08-12-2022, 11:41 AM
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#5367
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Calgary
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The mystery insider that broke the Necas extension early and a couple other hits also mentioning Lucic/Boston connection.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1558136725599182850
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08-12-2022, 11:44 AM
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#5368
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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If we lose Lucic after losing Gudbrandon, then who do we add to fill that role? No way Sutter is happy without some force in his lineup.
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08-12-2022, 11:44 AM
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#5369
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I understand what Lucic adds but IMO he's not a guy that should be playing 82 games. He really ran out of gas in the 2nd half of the season and I hope Darryl manages him a little better next season.
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I don’t disagree but with 1 year left I am not interested in trading futures or young players to dump that contract. Huberdeau has a 4.6M raise coming up next year which chews up 88% of the cap space gained by Lucic expiring
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08-12-2022, 11:47 AM
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#5370
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
I don’t disagree but with 1 year left I am not interested in trading futures or young players to dump that contract. Huberdeau has a 4.6M raise coming up next year which chews up 88% of the cap space gained by Lucic expiring
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I would rather keep him than emove him for even a 3rd round pick as this team has bled enough draft picks over the past year. I can stomach one more year of this contract but I just don't want to see him on the ice every game. I have no issues with a $6 million player spending half the season in the press box if it means the team is better on the ice.
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08-12-2022, 11:49 AM
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#5371
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I recall hearing some rumors around Hanifin for Carlo a couple years ago. Idk if I would be interested in that because I haven't watched Carlo play much, but similar (slightly lower cap hit), RD that is in the same age bracket as Hanifin.
Personally I would rather use Hanifin to get a top 6 forward
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08-12-2022, 11:54 AM
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#5372
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dustygoon
If we lose Lucic after losing Gudbrandon, then who do we add to fill that role? No way Sutter is happy without some force in his lineup.
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Rooney fights but he's not very good at it.
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08-12-2022, 11:54 AM
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#5373
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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I can’t see this being a big blockbuster with Hanifin or others going back. I do wonder what the Flames will do with the space if it goes down?
If they move the entire cap hit they will have over 7.5M in space so Kadri could happen?
To Arizona: Valimaki, Folgino
To Boston: Lucic (50% retained by Arizona)
To Calgary: 5th round pick (Boston)
Sign Kadri to a 4x7.5M deal
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08-12-2022, 11:56 AM
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#5374
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbull8
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I recall hearing some rumors around Hanifin for Carlo a couple years ago. Idk if I would be interested in that because I haven't watched Carlo play much, but similar (slightly lower cap hit), RD that is in the same age bracket as Hanifin.
Personally I would rather use Hanifin to get a top 6 forward
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Carlo would become our 4th best RH dman. Seems silly
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08-12-2022, 11:58 AM
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#5375
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Crash and Bang Winger
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We should find everything out tonight around 9 pm I would think
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08-12-2022, 12:00 PM
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#5376
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Hyperbole Chamber
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Just need a Ryan Leslie wink emoji response before I start hitting F5.
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08-12-2022, 12:06 PM
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#5377
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dustygoon
If we lose Lucic after losing Gudbrandon, then who do we add to fill that role? No way Sutter is happy without some force in his lineup.
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Our skill group got bigger this offseason, so a big deterrent is a little less necessary than it was before.
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08-12-2022, 12:21 PM
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#5378
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Calgary
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Well as long as they aren't getting handled by Nurse and E Kane. That would be just sad.
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08-12-2022, 12:28 PM
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#5379
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I wouldn’t be shocked to see Lucic as part of the last hoorah for Boston. They know this is their final year with Bergeron and likely Marchand too. I’d love Chara to sign there for one more year too for a run as their 6/7.
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08-12-2022, 01:00 PM
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#5380
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
I wouldn’t be shocked to see Lucic as part of the last hoorah for Boston. They know this is their final year with Bergeron and likely Marchand too. I’d love Chara to sign there for one more year too for a run as their 6/7.
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Poor Rask….
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