08-06-2019, 10:58 PM
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#21
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by N-E-B
That organization is a laughing stock. Dundon is a nut.
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Dysfunctional or not, I'll take that kind of playoff success here.
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08-06-2019, 11:09 PM
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#22
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA
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In other news, water is wet.
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08-07-2019, 12:36 AM
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#23
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeecho
I'm intrigued by the way Dundon has challenged the way hockey operations has been run by organizations.
Virtually every move he's made has eschewed the group think and stagnant conventional wisdom that is the world of hockey ops.
Those moves have been universally panned by the hockey elite, and yet his organization has taken positive and significant strides forward since he's been the owner.
Maybe he's on to something.
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Or not. Correlation does not equal causation after all.
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08-07-2019, 01:38 AM
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#24
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djsFlames
Dysfunctional or not, I'll take that kind of playoff success here.
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You mean the one appearance in 10 seasons? No thanks.
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08-07-2019, 01:49 AM
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#25
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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And yet, the Hurricanes have as many third-round appearances since 2002 as the Flames do dating back to 1971, plus a much more recent Stanley Cup.
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08-07-2019, 05:21 AM
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#26
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Franchise Player
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If the Canes are in a pinch, I'm available. I've put together many simulated Stanley Cup winners on Playstation
I have vacation coming up, so giving two weeks notice is not an issue
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08-07-2019, 06:11 AM
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#27
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylvanfan
Bunch O Jerks...
Does Dundon have an adult son with a bowl cut by chance?
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What's wrong with bowl cuts? It's not Mark's fault the masses are slow to catch on to fashion trends.
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08-07-2019, 06:23 AM
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#28
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeecho
Those moves have been universally panned by the hockey elite, and yet his organization has taken positive and significant strides forward since he's been the owner.
Maybe he's on to something.
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Causation vs. correlation and all that Jazz.
The core of that team was all in place prior to Dundon taking over (Aho, Slavin, Pesce, Faulk, Teravainen, Williams, Staal)
Waddell (who was suggested by the NHL to help Dundon) made some decent moves in getting Niedereiter, Hamilton, Mrazek, McElhinney but i don’t think any of that really has to do with Dundon’s strategy.
Will be interesting to see how it all plays out longer term. .
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08-07-2019, 07:09 AM
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#29
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Powerplay Quarterback
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What I found interesting was that the NHL requires teams to have a GM.
Would anyone be surprised if, in the event Waddell leaves, Dundon names himself GM?
When Burke fired Feaster, did he tag on the "interim GM" title to his position? (He would have had to, I guess.)
Do the NHL bylaws define the GM as the only designate to be able to make trades?
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08-07-2019, 07:16 AM
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#30
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Yes, cheap out on a GM. But spend hundreds of millions on a sinking Football league.
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08-07-2019, 07:36 AM
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#31
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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I've said this a ton, and I'm not breaking any news.
Dundon is nuts.
Straight from the school of B.S., a la Mark Cuban. Hardly a shock they're buds.
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08-07-2019, 08:25 AM
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#32
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeecho
I'm intrigued by the way Dundon has challenged the way hockey operations has been run by organizations.
Virtually every move he's made has eschewed the group think and stagnant conventional wisdom that is the world of hockey ops.
Those moves have been universally panned by the hockey elite, and yet his organization has taken positive and significant strides forward since he's been the owner.
Maybe he's on to something.
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If you're going to act like the smartest guy in the room...you'd better be the smartest guy in the room.
Otherwise you're just the crazy person on the Bus.
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08-07-2019, 08:38 AM
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#33
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#1 Goaltender
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What blow my mind is how owners can do this given how long it takes to build a competent team of personnel. The flames started putting a big emphasis on rebuilding it's drafting team and processes in 2003. We really didn't see results until 2011. That's the good part of a decade.
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08-07-2019, 11:08 AM
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#34
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Kelowna
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
And yet, the Hurricanes have as many third-round appearances since 2002 as the Flames do dating back to 1971, plus a much more recent Stanley Cup.
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I was genuinely about to reply that 2006 isn't "Much more recent" than 2004. Talk about brainwashing ones self lmao
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08-07-2019, 11:28 AM
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#35
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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I'm old enough to remember that Darryl Sutter had a year to year handshake agreement with the flames and that Treliving went into a summer's worth of drafting and signings without a contract.
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08-07-2019, 11:35 AM
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#36
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flash Walken
.. and that Treliving went into a summer's worth of drafting and signings without a contract.
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Apparently you're old enough to be mis-remembering 
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08-07-2019, 12:53 PM
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#37
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Jordan!
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Chandler, AZ
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I honestly find this refreshing.. the old boys Hockey ways are old and boring.
Mix it up!
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08-07-2019, 01:23 PM
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#38
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
And yet, the Hurricanes have as many third-round appearances since 2002 as the Flames do dating back to 1971, plus a much more recent Stanley Cup.
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Huge asterix on their cup win. They played a team that was no good.
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08-07-2019, 01:44 PM
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#39
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Huge asterix on their cup win. They played a team that was no good.
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08-07-2019, 02:00 PM
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#40
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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I'm not even going to fix that spelling, in tribute to your fine reference.
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