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Old 06-05-2019, 07:12 PM   #421
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Woah man, spoiler.
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Old 06-05-2019, 07:18 PM   #422
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Sooo....technically thew Chernobyl disaster was Ukraine's fault and had nothing to do with the Russians at all!

Totally just triggering WhiteOut. Do not mean that.
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A plague on Crave for breaking their Samsung TV app when I'm hearing all these rave reviews of Chernobyl.
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Just finished Chernobyl tonight, and those last 2 episodes were just fantastic, riveting television. I can't recommend this series enough.
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Old 06-05-2019, 11:10 PM   #426
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From the New Yorker, what Chernobyl got right, and what it got terribly wrong:


https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-c...=pocket-newtab


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Khomyuk appears to embody every possible Hollywood fantasy. She is a truth-knower: the first time we see her, she is already figuring out that something has gone terribly wrong, and she is grasping it terribly fast, unlike the dense men at the actual scene of the disaster, who seem to need hours to take it in. She is also a truth-seeker: she interviews dozens of people (some of them as they are dying of radiation exposure), digs up a scientific paper that has been censored, and figures out exactly what happened, minute by minute. She also gets herself arrested and then immediately seated at a meeting on the disaster, led by Gorbachev. None of this is possible, and all of it is hackneyed. The problem is not just that Khomyuk is a fiction; it’s that the kind of expert knowledge she represents is a fiction. The Soviet system of propaganda and censorship existed not so much for the purpose of spreading a particular message as for the purpose of making learning impossible, replacing facts with mush, and handing the faceless state a monopoly on defining an ever-shifting reality.

Haven't seen it yet so nothing to add personally, but looking forward, if that's the right word in this case, to watching it.
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Old 06-05-2019, 11:18 PM   #427
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From the New Yorker, what Chernobyl got right, and what it got terribly wrong:


https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-c...=pocket-newtab

Haven't seen it yet so nothing to add personally, but looking forward, if that's the right word in this case, to watching it.
Wow. So they obviously didnt watch the final episode. Thats some fine half-assed journalism.
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Khomyuk was a composite character meant to represent dozens of other scientists that helped put nlan end to the crisis. So yes lots of things happened to her, because she's representing many other people and story's. It's a creative decision by the writers, just like the helicopter crash (that happened month after not in the initial days). These decisions serve a purpose.
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Khomyuk was a composite character meant to represent dozens of other scientists that helped put nlan end to the crisis. So yes lots of things happened to her, because she's representing many other people and story's. It's a creative decision by the writers, just like the helicopter crash (that happened month after not in the initial days). These decisions serve a purpose.
Exactly, it would have been confusing to the viewer if every Khomyuk screen was a different character, even if it made the miniseries more factually accurate
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Khomyuk was a composite character meant to represent dozens of other scientists that helped put nlan end to the crisis. So yes lots of things happened to her, because she's representing many other people and story's. It's a creative decision by the writers, just like the helicopter crash (that happened month after not in the initial days). These decisions serve a purpose.
And they tell you that in the final episode.
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Khomyuk was a composite character meant to represent dozens of other scientists that helped put nlan end to the crisis. So yes lots of things happened to her, because she's representing many other people and story's. It's a creative decision by the writers, just like the helicopter crash (that happened month after not in the initial days). These decisions serve a purpose.
After the second episode, I looked up the character of Khomyuk because something did not seem right about her. Everything about her was too on the nose. While I understand why they created that character, it took me out of the story a bit. Other than that though, I really enjoyed Chernobyl.
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Started watching The League last night. Holy F, from scene 1 onward it is hilarious. Got 3 episodes in before bed. Can't wait to binge watch more.
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Started watching The League last night. Holy F, from scene 1 onward it is hilarious. Got 3 episodes in before bed. Can't wait to binge watch more.
The League I think was great almost until the end, I don't think I bothered to finish the last season even, but the first 3 or 4 seasons were awesome
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I want that Chernobyl model to put up in my office.

"And it really works! Its powering this room right now!!"
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Old 06-06-2019, 12:17 PM   #436
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Maybe there should be a split Chernobyl thread?

Haven't seen it yet, would like to avoid potential spoilers (yes we all know about the disaster, doesn't mean there can't be spoilers).
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Russia apparently hates the Chernobyl series and has promised to make their own series to counter American propaganda. Instead of the disaster, the Russian series will focus on the American spy's infiltration of the Chernobyl power plant and the KGB spies that tried to stop them... lol. Putin's skin is almost as thin as Trumps.

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“The fact that an American, not a Russian, TV channel tells us about our own heroes is a source of shame that the pro-Kremlin media apparently cannot live down,” writes the Times’ Ilya Shepelin. “And this is the real reason they find fault with HBO’s Chernobyl series.”

Part of this crusade is a Russia-produced series from the country’s NTV channel. Directed by filmmaker Alexei Muradov, their project will focus not on the aftermath of the explosion, but instead on what Shepelin calls a “conspiracy theory” that inserts American spies into the narrative.

Of his story, Muradov says, “One theory holds that Americans had infiltrated the Chernobyl nuclear power plant and many historians do not deny that, on the day of the explosion, an agent of the enemy’s intelligence services was present at the station.” The heroes, then, will not be the scientists, soldiers, and civilians who helped prevent a further spread of radiation, but rather the KGB officers trying to thwart these CIA operatives.

As Shepelin notes, Russia’s leadership rarely honors Chernobyl’s survivors. “Just go to the official Kremlin website to see how often President Vladimir Putin mentions the Chernobyl survivors—many of whom are still alive and suffer from a variety of radiation-induced illnesses,” writes the Times’ Ilya Shepelin. “Putin’s sole references to them occur on the major anniversaries of the Chernobyl accident. He last mentioned them in 2016, on the 30th anniversary of the disaster, and again in 2011, on the 25th anniversary.”
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Seems odd to be documenting how the KGB failed to prevent the CIA from a glorious victory. Which we know is obviously fake, becuase the CIA sucks at everything.
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Seems odd to be documenting how the KGB failed to prevent the CIA from a glorious victory. Which we know is obviously fake, becuase the CIA sucks at everything.
Yeah, the place blew up which means the job got done which means the CIA didnt do it.

And now I'm on a list.

Goddammit Fuzz!!

That being said though....to what end? Thats a lot of collateral damage to maybe besmirch your rival.

That would be criminal.
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