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Old 08-27-2020, 09:24 PM   #321
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The effect is awareness and education. The world becomes a little better each time someone new starts to understand what we are fighting for and start supporting it.
100% true. It needs to start when children are very young. If you don’t believe it check out some of people’s comments, on CP, rendered in this thread. Too dumb and too stubborn to re-evaluate.

Literally, some are incorrigible , stuck in their ignorance and false doctrines.

Very very sad!

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Old 08-27-2020, 09:27 PM   #322
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I understand why they're doing this. A two day or three day stand is a good first step. I mentioned before that if they suddenly boycotted the entire season, that would be very damaging to their employers, who are not the initiators of this problem. If the playe4rs boycott the rest of the season, they have to be prepared to never play again.


However, what I'm fearful of is that this movement, if we can call that, might be triggered by single incidents. We all know there's a overall problem of police brutality and we all know it's going to happen again. So do these sports just continue on until the next incident? What if that incident is tomorrow? What if it's 3 weeks from now? What if it's in the off-season when the players are no longer in the bubble. Do they not start the new season?


Even with all the good that's happening, even with police chiefs and mayors saying the right things, even if there was new legislation, there will be another incident, there's has to be. A police officer with the best intentions could make a mistake a shoot a black man. It cannot be perfect. Then what?
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Old 08-27-2020, 09:36 PM   #323
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Crown Royal and Pepsi is fantastic.
No. Crown & ginger.
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Can I just have the Pepsi? All mixed drinks with Cola are garbage.
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Old 08-27-2020, 09:45 PM   #325
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I understand why they're doing this. A two day or three day stand is a good first step. I mentioned before that if they suddenly boycotted the entire season, that would be very damaging to their employers, who are not the initiators of this problem. If the playe4rs boycott the rest of the season, they have to be prepared to never play again.


However, what I'm fearful of is that this movement, if we can call that, might be triggered by single incidents. We all know there's a overall problem of police brutality and we all know it's going to happen again. So do these sports just continue on until the next incident? What if that incident is tomorrow? What if it's 3 weeks from now? What if it's in the off-season when the players are no longer in the bubble. Do they not start the new season?


Even with all the good that's happening, even with police chiefs and mayors saying the right things, even if there was no legislation, there will be another incident, there's has to be. A police officer with the best intentions could make a mistake a shoot a black man. It cannot be perfect. Then what?
It won’t be perfect but it sure as hell can be miles better.

Police officers need much better training. Teachers in the USA ( not knowledgeable on Canada salaries) make about 50-60percent of what police officers make, annually, in the USA. Police officers also have far less formal education than teachers.

You cannot excuse killing a person(s) because of “mistakes“.

Pay the teachers more and educate kids early and often on racial equality.
Higher education standards and better training for police offIcers.

IMO, these are the long term solutions. Priorities!
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Old 08-27-2020, 09:51 PM   #326
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I understand why they're doing this. A two day or three day stand is a good first step. I mentioned before that if they suddenly boycotted the entire season, that would be very damaging to their employers, who are not the initiators of this problem. If the playe4rs boycott the rest of the season, they have to be prepared to never play again.


However, what I'm fearful of is that this movement, if we can call that, might be triggered by single incidents. We all know there's a overall problem of police brutality and we all know it's going to happen again. So do these sports just continue on until the next incident? What if that incident is tomorrow? What if it's 3 weeks from now? What if it's in the off-season when the players are no longer in the bubble. Do they not start the new season?


Even with all the good that's happening, even with police chiefs and mayors saying the right things, even if there was new legislation, there will be another incident, there's has to be. A police officer with the best intentions could make a mistake a shoot a black man. It cannot be perfect. Then what?
Sometimes a single incident can bring about change, ie: Port Arthur, AU or the Nova Scotia shooting. What that looks like here is still unknown, but there is enough traction that it may lead to something good.

The best thing that can come from this a repeal of the 2nd Amendment, but that's a really heavy lift.
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Old 08-27-2020, 09:57 PM   #328
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Unless the USA has a full on revolution and second civil war, in which the constitution gets rewritten from scratch because the Dems finally won something, I’d put the odds of the second amendment being repealed on level with my chances of becoming President in November.
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I'm more of a neat type of guy but id drink Pepsi for the both of ya
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Unless the USA has a full on revolution and second civil war, in which the constitution gets rewritten from scratch because the Dems finally won something, I’d put the odds of the second amendment being repealed on level with my chances of becoming President in November.
living in America I was always blown away how broad second amendment "support" was. Most people you speak will never openly say anything against it.
When the second amendment was written most people in America lived far from civilization, there were no real police or systems of justice, and the guns were like muskets. It has no place in current society.
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Regardless of race, most civilians from 2013 to 2017 who were involved in police use of force cases were unarmed (67%) at the time of their encounter with the TPS. Overall, a higher proportion of White people had a weapon in police use of force cases. While a higher proportion of Black people had a gun (8.3% of Black people vs. 3.6% of White people) or a knife (16.7% of Black people vs. 14.7% of White people) in police use of force cases, a higher proportion of White people had a gun (20% of White people vs. 11.1% of Black people) in police shootings.

Although there were more allegations of Black people (41.7%) resisting arrest than White people (25.5%), White people were more likely to have a criminal record (54.5%) and to have allegedly threatened or attacked police (61.8%) than Black people (44.4% – criminal record; 44.4% – threatened or attacked police).

From 2013-2017, according to SIU reports, most civilians (70.4%) were not exhibiting mental health issues at the time of their encounter with the TPS that involved use of force. However, a large proportion of use of force cases involved people exhibiting mental health issues (29.6%).

Dr. Wortley’s analysis suggests that White people are “most often exposed to police use of force when experiencing a mental health crisis.” White people are over-represented in use of force cases where the civilian was exhibiting mental health issues


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I said MIXED drinks! A belt of scotch hardly counts.
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If some of you are disappointed in some of the responses here at CP, I highly suggest you avoid the official Flames Facebook page supporting BLM. Lost a lot of respect for this fanbase as a whole reading through that filth.
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If some of you are disappointed in some of the responses here at CP, I highly suggest you avoid the official Flames Facebook page supporting BLM. Lost a lot of respect for this fanbase as a whole reading through that filth.
I’m sure the ownership wouldn’t do this but it would be great to see the players say something like if you hold these disgusting views then we don’t want you as fans. GTFO.

Won’t happen but sometimes the right aims supersede materialistic ones.
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living in America I was always blown away how broad second amendment "support" was. Most people you speak will never openly say anything against it.
When the second amendment was written most people in America lived far from civilization, there were no real police or systems of justice, and the guns were like muskets. It has no place in current society.
That is not my experience but I can't deny there are many who obviously support it.
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Was it wise to cancel all sports on the night of Trumps acceptance speech? Probably improved his ratings. Honestly ALL efforts should be focused on getting him out of office. It may not fix all the problems but it is the ONLY first step.

If he wins again she's all over
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For those who say this boycotting won't amount to much... My 8 year-old son asked me why there aren't any NHL or NBA games today and I had to explain to him why the players decided not to play. It at least forced me to start the conversation with him and explain what racism means and how it isn't fair.

I'm proud of the players for doing this because I'm sure it generated conversations similar to one I had in other households. There are bigger things to talk about than sports.

Racism won't end overnight, but at least future generations will be more open-minded at such an impressionable age to effect change when their time comes.
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If some of you are disappointed in some of the responses here at CP, I highly suggest you avoid the official Flames Facebook page supporting BLM. Lost a lot of respect for this fanbase as a whole reading through that filth.

Made the mistake of glancing at that as well, and there are some truly reprehensible people on there. WTF is wrong with these arseholes?
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Facebook comments are always the worst of the worst I wouldn't let it get to you

I was reading another hockey board today and that made me proud of CP (for the most part)
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