2018/2019 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Stanley

Monahan for O'Reilly?

The Flames already tried that, the league said no.

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

The Flames already tried that, the league said no.

Looks like Feaster was right after all. Bring him back.

[CanucksWorstNightmare]

I wonder if this trade wouldn't work for both teams:

To Tampa Bay - Monahan (24 years old)

To Calgary : Point (23 years old)

Tampa gets a player signed to a reasonable contract and get rid of a guy prob wanting north of 9.Calgary gets a hometown boy that needs a new contract but plays with a little more jam even though smaller than Monahan.

[David Struch]

Originally Posted by Tiger

everybody always says you 'Can't win with this guy' until they do win!

True, I remember the same was said about both Steve Yzerman and Joe Sakic until they won the Stanley Cup.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by CanucksWorstNightmare

I wonder if this trade wouldn't work for both teams:

To Tampa Bay - Monahan (24 years old)

To Calgary : Point (23 years old)

Tampa gets a player signed to a reasonable contract and get rid of a guy prob wanting north of 9.Calgary gets a hometown boy that needs a new contract but plays with a little more jam even though smaller than Monahan.

I think if we want Point it would cost Gaudreau. If it cost Monahan then absolutely do it.

[Incogneto]

My dream trade would be:

To Det:
Monahan
1st

To Cgy:
D. Larkin

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by CanucksWorstNightmare

I wonder if this trade wouldn't work for both teams:

To Tampa Bay - Monahan (24 years old)

To Calgary : Point (23 years old)

Tampa gets a player signed to a reasonable contract and get rid of a guy prob wanting north of 9.Calgary gets a hometown boy that needs a new contract but plays with a little more jam even though smaller than Monahan.

jesus christ.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

The Flames already tried that, the league said no.

I wonder if the league would have actually made us put O'Reilly through waivers as well. That would have been a total Flames move, give up a 6th overall to waive ROR.

Originally Posted by Incogneto

My dream trade would be:

To Det:
Monahan
1st

To Cgy:
D. Larkin

That I could get behind but I doubt Detroit does it.

[CanucksWorstNightmare]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

jesus christ.

Whats the problem Flash Walken?? Tampa is in cap hell and could potentially loose Point to a offer sheet.I do think Point has more value then Monahan but Monahan's 6.375 contract could be very enticing to Tampa moving forward.Flames might have to add but I think something like this could work for both teams.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by CanucksWorstNightmare

Whats the problem Flash Walken?? Tampa is in cap hell and could potentially loose Point to a offer sheet.I do think Point has more value then Monahan but Monahan's 6.375 contract could be very enticing to Tampa moving forward.Flames might have to add but I think something like this could work for both teams.

I don't follow Tampa boards at all but I imagine they are doing similar soul searching as the Flames. I don't think the local connection would be much of a factor for Point though.

Tampa could use some help on D salaries too. They have 4 UFAs, 3 of whom are over 30. They ain't keeping all of them, but if they want to maintain they are going to need more than rookies filling in.

Monahan + Brodie for Point. Maybe a throw in from Tampa as well?

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by CanucksWorstNightmare

Whats the problem Flash Walken?? Tampa is in cap hell and could potentially loose Point to a offer sheet.I do think Point has more value then Monahan but Monahan's 6.375 contract could be very enticing to Tampa moving forward.Flames might have to add but I think something like this could work for both teams.

There's reasonable discussion in the NHL that Point is their best player overall player. Would Tampa give up their best player for our... 4th+ best?

[Toonage]

So, Tampa is in need of cap space and has players to sign and to accomplish this they take back almost $10M in salary from us? Why wouldn't they just spend that on Point and whoever else?

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Toonage

So, Tampa is in need of cap space and has players to sign and to accomplish this they take back almost $10M in salary from us? Why wouldn't they just spend that on Point and whoever else?

Considering the perspective of the other team?

Huh, that's weird.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Toonage

So, Tampa is in need of cap space and has players to sign and to accomplish this they take back almost $10M in salary from us? Why wouldn't they just spend that on Point and whoever else?

I think the math would still work out in their favour. Point is probably in the $8m neighbourhood and a top 4 defenceman probably works out to another $5. Monaghan and Brodie leaves them some money for at least one other player.

[868904]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I think if we want Point it would cost Gaudreau. If it cost Monahan then absolutely do it.

I would probably do Point for Gaudreau. They are both line drivers but Point has more jam to his game, plus you'd think you could keep him longer term.

No way the Lightning do Point for Monahan.

I was wondering if the Pens would do Monahan for Malkin. It would give the Pens a lot of cap space to work with to improve their roster plus they get the younger player. who slides in perfectly as a number 2 centre behind Crosby. Do they really need two number 1 centres?

Malkin is older with 4 more years and you run the risk of his game deteriorating, but I don't think we'll see a James Neal type implosion. This is one of the greatest players of all time after all.

[FurnaceFace]

Malkin. NM/NTC. You can also pen him in for 10-20 missed games a year.

[Flamenspiel]

No Malkin, please.

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

I'd look at a Ladd for Neal deal

it might be case where both players need a change of scenario, and Trotz knowing Neal, might be able to unlock him

Ladd on the flip side could be rejuvenated back in calgary

the salaries are basically even...its worth a shot imo

What is the story with Ladd? I dont pay enough attention. Is his issue that he can't keep up anymore either?

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by 868904

I would probably do Point for Gaudreau. They are both line drivers but Point has more jam to his game, plus you'd think you could keep him longer term.

No way the Lightning do Point for Monahan.

I was wondering if the Pens would do Monahan for Malkin. It would give the Pens a lot of cap space to work with to improve their roster plus they get the younger player. who slides in perfectly as a number 2 centre behind Crosby. Do they really need two number 1 centres?

Malkin is older with 4 more years and you run the risk of his game deteriorating, but I don't think we'll see a James Neal type implosion. This is one of the greatest players of all time after all.

Malkin is 9 years older and $3M more expensive per season so big no thanks.

I could see Point for Gaudreau being similar to the Lindholm-Hamilton trade last summer. While Hamilton is still quite young his client tract is up in 2 years and is extension eligible in one year. The team failing in 2018 caused Treliving to change his plan and moved out a key piece in Hamilton along with other expendable pieces that would have been hard to retain for 2 players that he was able to lock up for 6 years each and were 3 years younger than the roster players they were traded for.

Johnny has 3 years left on an amazing contract. If the Flames could trade for and sign Point they likely get him for 6-8 years which is a lot longer than we have Johnny.

It makes some sense to me from both teams perspective but I can also see why both teams would prefer to keep their guy

[Flamenspiel]

I wonder about Kevin Hayes, not many PIMs, he was ok(not great) for the Jets. Certainly glad we did not trade for a rental, but could he be an FA piece to help us down the road. Low PIMs, not sure if he is "mean".