It took me the longest time to appreciate the Pogues and Macgowan in particular, I'd grown up loving the Chieftan's, to this day Bonapartes Retreat is one my top ten albums, my first reaction to the Pogues was it was being disrespectful to the beauty of traditional airs and reels it came from, that it was almost a parody of its source, it took me the longest time to realize that MacGowan was being utterly honest, that he was a brilliant song writer and also a hellraising drunken buffoon, that it wasnt an act it was who he was, my inclination is that it was sad and it took him to early but he seemed to love his life so who am I to judge or feel sadness
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It took me the longest time to appreciate the Pogues and Macgowan in particular, I'd grown up loving the Chieftan's, to this day Bonapartes Retreat is one my top ten albums, my first reaction to the Pogues was it was being disrespectful to the beauty of traditional airs and reels it came from, that it was almost a parody of its source, it took me the longest time to realize that MacGowan was being utterly honest, that he was a brilliant song writer and also a hellraising drunken buffoon, that it wasnt an act it was who he was, my inclination is that it was sad and it took him to early but he seemed to love his life so who am I to judge or feel sadness
I was the other way. In my teens when I first heart the Pogues. I was still in my punk phase and loved them right off.
I turned my nose up at more traditional acts like the Chieftan's as I didn't need that boring old peoples crap.
Took me a few years before I matured enough to also enjoy traditional folk.
Have to admit I think "If I should Fall From Grace with God" is the last Pogues album that I thought was good.
I was the other way. In my teens when I first heart the Pogues. I was still in my punk phase and loved them right off.
I turned my nose up at more traditional acts like the Chieftan's as I didn't need that boring old peoples crap.
Took me a few years before I matured enough to also enjoy traditional folk.
Have to admit I think "If I should Fall From Grace with God" is the last Pogues album that I thought was good.
I like Hell's Ditch a lot. I was sad to have never seen him in concert. I saw in the Pogues in Vancouver, but Joe Strummer was singing. Pogues songs weren't the same without Shane, but the set of Clash songs was pretty amazing.
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Nick Cave, who collaborated with MacGowan in the Nineties, tells Rolling Stone that MacGowan was “a true friend and the greatest songwriter of his generation. [It’s] a very sad day.
No I'm British, I am of Welsh and Irish decent, Monmouthshire and Dublin, I have spent most of my life in Canada now but from London prior to that, like every Brit I'm a mut, my grandmother was born in Edinburgh Castle, her father, my Great Grandfather was Bandmaster of the Black Watch
And as to my early feelings about MacGowan, british TV was full of Irish comedians playing up to the racist attitudes of the day, even Dave Allen would spend half his show making jokes about drunks so my first reaction was 'that's all we need another parody drunk on Saturday night TV' still not sure how to square that circle
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Nick Cave, who collaborated with MacGowan in the Nineties, tells Rolling Stone that MacGowan was “a true friend and the greatest songwriter of his generation. [It’s] a very sad day.
scrolling down in this thread and seeing Nick Cave... my heart stopped momentarily.
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