Falcon and the Winter Soldier (Spoilers Thread)

[OutOfTheCube]

Karli is probably the worst 'villain' of the entire MCU. I didn't for one second find her believable as some sort of political revolutionary leader, or believe she could keep up in a fight with Bucky or (super-soldier) Walker. Does taking the serum also make you an expert in hand-to-hand combat all of the sudden too? She just looked and sounded weak and stupid and I was happy when Sharon finally blasted her away. I was worried they were gonna try to continue the story of this loser group, but then they blew their car up (who was that random old guy anyways?) so that's good.

Other than that, I found the rest entertaining, but the overall plot kind of muddled and confusing. The show would've been much, much stronger if it focused on Zemo as the primary villain.

[monkeyman]

That was all so anticlimatic.

[CMPunk]

Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

Karli is probably the worst 'villain' of the entire MCU. I didn't for one second find her believable as some sort of political revolutionary leader, or believe she could keep up in a fight with Bucky or (super-soldier) Walker. Does taking the serum also make you an expert in hand-to-hand combat all of the sudden too? She just looked and sounded weak and stupid and I was happy when Sharon finally blasted her away. I was worried they were gonna try to continue the story of this loser group, but then they blew their car up (who was that random old guy anyways?) so that's good.

Other than that, I found the rest entertaining, but the overall plot kind of muddled and confusing. The show would've been much, much stronger if it focused on Zemo as the primary villain.

I believe that was Zemos butler

[CaptainCrunch]

I still looking back liked Wandavision a lot better. the F+WS was more big action, but a fairly pedestrian and predictable plot with in the end weak villians. Wandvision was more riskier

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

Karli is probably the worst 'villain' of the entire MCU. I didn't for one second find her believable as some sort of political revolutionary leader, or believe she could keep up in a fight with Bucky or (super-soldier) Walker. Does taking the serum also make you an expert in hand-to-hand combat all of the sudden too? She just looked and sounded weak and stupid and I was happy when Sharon finally blasted her away. I was worried they were gonna try to continue the story of this loser group, but then they blew their car up (who was that random old guy anyways?) so that's good.

Other than that, I found the rest entertaining, but the overall plot kind of muddled and confusing. The show would've been much, much stronger if it focused on Zemo as the primary villain.

Who hurt you?

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I still looking back liked Wandavision a lot better. the F+WS was more big action, but a fairly pedestrian and predictable plot with in the end weak villians. Wandvision was more riskier

Agreed, and I didn't much care for WandaVison out of the gates.

One thing it had going for it was Elizabeth Olsen. She has big time movie star written all over her.

[Pizza]

File this on the same shelf with Ryan Renolds vs HHH (Blade Trinity) and Vin Diesel vs Dwayne Johnson (Fast Five), Anthony Mackie vs GSP is one of those fights where you know who'd easily win. Sure they may be actors portraying Marvel characters, but at some point, you cant turn off in your head knowing the background of a real MMA fighter as decorated as GSP

[Locke]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I still looking back liked Wandavision a lot better. the F+WS was more big action, but a fairly pedestrian and predictable plot with in the end weak villians. Wandvision was more riskier

Really?

Ok. You're entitled to your opinion, but I enjoyed it a lot more. I actually thought Wandavision was pretty bad.

I guess that I felt that while they had 6 ~hour-long episodes they still made it more real and down-to-earth and grounded but still covered the ethos of a Marvel Super-hero story.

I thought this show was really well done. With the caveat that whomever thought it was going to be a good idea to give an African-American Hero a stark white suit.

Really guys? Really? Read the damned room.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by Locke

I thought this show was really well done. With the caveat that whomever thought it was going to be a good idea to give an African-American Hero a stark white suit.

Really guys? Really? Read the damned room.

It's exactly what he looks like in the comics

Spoiler!

[KTrain]

Someone really hated this series.

[Wastedyouth]

Leifield was such a weirdo.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I still looking back liked Wandavision a lot better. the F+WS was more big action, but a fairly pedestrian and predictable plot with in the end weak villians. Wandvision was more riskier

Wandavision also helped me more with my insomnia

[FireGilbert]

That was fun but the writers tried to cram way too much into 6 episodes. The Sam story in contrast with Walker was excellent. I liked Bucky learning to accept his past and move on but felt like there could have been more focus on this journey. Also, Zemo was pretty cool and I'd like to see more of him. On the other hand the Carli and the Flag Smashers plot was all over the place. The refugee premise was fine but more time was required to flesh out these characters and their motivations. As well the Sharon/Power Broker/Madripoor stuff felt tacked on. This season should have only been about the Sam, Bucky, and Walker stories, saving Carli and Sharon for a 2nd season.

Overall I enjoyed this more than WandaVision. The epic fight scenes and action set pieces put Falcon and The Winter Soldier steps ahead.

[Itse]

I do appreciate that MCU is doing different things the material it has.

FatWS and WandaVision are very different shows. Some will like one and some the other, which is natural and obviously just smart financial planning from Disney, but as a fan I'm enjoying the variety, even if not everything is tailor made for me.

[Scroopy Noopers]

It was a fun 6 episode punch up with a good message about equality. Don’t over think it.

[zamler]

Late to the party. Overall it was good but last episode went full ham fist. Too bad because the writing and acting was mostly solid and the message was nuanced and smart. Until they went ham.