[Signing] Wild sign Kaprizov (5yrs, $9mil AAV)

[The Cobra]

The alternative was likely him playing in the KHL.

Would you pass?


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[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by MrMike

Toronto and Dubas started this trend with the Matthews and Marner contracts.

Edit - Transplant beat me to it

At least Matthews and Marner had three productive seasons in the NHL before they got their current deals. Kaprizov has 62 games including playoffs.

Originally Posted by The Cobra

The alternative was likely him playing in the KHL.

Would you pass?

Have him play in the KHL, retain his rights indefinitely, and not have to pay him until he comes back, by which time the worst of those insane buyout hits might be over and the team will be financially capable of competing again?

Sign me up.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

The alternative was likely him playing in the KHL.

Would you pass?


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I would.

There is zero chance he gets anything close to that money in the KHL.

Call his bluff.

[FlamesAddiction]

I get that he was almost a PPG player, but only 55 NHL games in his career. That just seems crazy to me.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I get that he was almost a PPG player, but only 55 NHL games in his career. That just seems crazy to me.

Came to post just this. This is insanely risky for the Wild. Then again they have a track record of signing insane contracts.

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

It sure feels like the 2nd contract, after ELC, is quickly becoming a problem....

Vancouver just got quite a bit more uncomfortable seeing this, I'd imagine.

I like it. I'd rather have a good player in his prime get paid than the way it used to be, with old guys getting paid on what they used to be able to do.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Yup. High end players are getting paid now coming right off ELCs. That's the new reality. Which is perhaps how it should be. It'll mean someone else is getting squeezed - the middle and lower end players.

Exactly. The cap hasn't changed so this also means older players will get squeezed.

I don't know if this is necessarily what the players want (that is, the cap shifting more and more to younger players). But at least the old guys banked their escrow money for last year. The young guys will be paying that back for years.

[Scroopy Noopers]

This guy is one of the most dynamic forwards in the league, this is not an overpayment. He’s also not a “rookie”, the guy has 7 years of professional hockey under his belt.

[Samonadreau]

Definitely the Matthews and Marner deals that ruined it.

[Geeoff]

This seems like a big risk for Minnesota. Hopefully Kaprizov is a star player for them.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

This guy is one of the most dynamic forwards in the league, this is not an overpayment. He’s also not a “rookie”, the guy has 7 years of professional hockey under his belt.

How does that make sense to you?!

At the first sign of adversity, he's going to peace out back to the KHL.

[Macho0978]

This is a tough deal for Minnesota. Biggest problem with this deal is the flat cap. Very little chance they get a break and the cap goes up big during this contract.

Deals like this and the Matthews and Marner deals just show how the old blow it up and rebuild strategy just isn't as fool proof as it used to be. You really need to plan the timing of your contracts. Win while your young stars are on ELC's then rebuild when they get these contracts and go for it again on the back end of these deals. You definitely need new ELC's coming in when you sign guys like this.

Looking at Vancouver now they have $10 mil in cap space and what should be 2 $9 mil players unsigned. Timing of deals are so important and Garland and OEL move just looks like a very bad decision. Hamonic at $3 mil? Clearly their is no plan on how to manage your cap it's just pick up guys we like. Even if Hughes and Pettersen sign 1 year deals for $5 mil each they will just have to deal with this next year but they players have more leverage now.

Looking at the Flames it's just looking more like moves for team control contracts is the way to go. Johnny is more likely to sign a good deal at age 29 than Tkachuk is at 24. Treliving needs to get on this now and if he isn't liking what he is hearing now he needs to make a move before the trade deadline. It isn't getting better next off season

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

How does that make sense to you?!

At the first sign of adversity, he's going to peace out back to the KHL.

Just a negotiating tactic for a player who, as far as I understand, can’t sign a offer sheet.

Edit: I really don’t understand your comment. If he leaves the league they aren’t stuck with his contract… and flight risk is calculated into a contract in your mind? Which part is supposed to not make sense to me. Have you seen this guy play hockey?

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Also sets a problematic bar for Elias.

I'd pay petterson this on a max term

I'm guessing they go bridge, but I dont think this changes things much for him

[Knightslayer]

Originally Posted by d_phaneuf

I'd pay petterson this on a max term

I'm guessing they go bridge, but I dont think this changes things much for him

That is insane. Kirill is so much better than Elias it isn't even close. Elias deserves $6 million max. Dude can't score even strength.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by transplant99

I would.

There is zero chance he gets anything close to that money in the KHL.

Call his bluff.

Calgary had a similar situation when Tkachuk held out. Trev blinked because he wanted him in the lineup. And now Tkachuk is in the cat bird position.

Minny isn’t winning with him on the bench.


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[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

Looking at Vancouver now they have $10 mil in cap space and what should be 2 $9 mil players unsigned.

I was like "what the hell"? So I looked at it and they actually have about 16.

[TheScorpion]

The NHL would've been a far worse place without Kaprizov. Thrilled about this.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Just a negotiating tactic for a player who, as far as I understand, can’t sign a offer sheet.

Edit: I really don’t understand your comment. If he leaves the league they aren’t stuck with his contract… and flight risk is calculated into a contract in your mind? Which part is supposed to not make sense to me. Have you seen this guy play hockey?

It's the opportunity cost of signing that contract vs another player.

It's completely nonsensical.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

This guy is one of the most dynamic forwards in the league, this is not an overpayment. He’s also not a “rookie”, the guy has 7 years of professional hockey under his belt.

If he puts up 90+ points I will agree...seems a bit risky though