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Old 01-21-2020, 05:35 PM   #541
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Maybe, but I think the Radar tracks that we've seen and flight path stuff that we've seen show it was pretty much acting like a jet liner and not a cruise missile or fighter bomber.
Wouldn't modern air crafts used by the U.S. military also be faster, quieter and generally stealthier than a large clunky commercial airliner as well?
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Old 01-21-2020, 05:39 PM   #542
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Wouldn't modern air crafts used by the U.S. military also be faster, quieter and generally stealthier than a large clunky commercial airliner as well?
Almost invisible to even the most advanced AA systems.

https://uawire.org/american-f-35-fig...issile-systems
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Old 01-21-2020, 08:44 PM   #543
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Wouldn't modern air crafts used by the U.S. military also be faster, quieter and generally stealthier than a large clunky commercial airliner as well?

Well yeah, the F-35 on the most modern radar is in theory supposed to have a Radar Cross Section of .1 meters. So it would show up as something like the size of a small bird. (possible correction) the Radar cross section of the F-35 is equivalent to a metal golf ball, the smallest RCS is suppossed to be the F22 Raptor which is roughly the size of a steel marble.


The Tor would probably have trouble picking up the F-35. And there's probably a pretty good chance that if this was an F-35 strike, and they were concerned with Iranian Radar that they would combine their stealth capability with its built in electronic counter measures or active electronic attacks on the SAM batteries Radar.



For the most part the radar screen from what I've seen from theories around the F-35 would be unreadable and the radar would be trying to pinpoint something that looks like the size of a sparrow.


It it was an attack by conventional 4 generation fighters, its likely that any strike would be proceeded by dedicated jamming attacks or even a strike using Anti-Radiation missiles to kill sam sites.


The Radar Cross section of a 767 would be massive, like 100 Meters.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51356626

Iran has decided to end cooperation with the Ukraine into the investigation.
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Old 02-03-2020, 08:35 AM   #545
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Iran knew it was a shootdown right away. Leaked air traffic communications


https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/ukraine...sile-1.4794738
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Iran has decided to end cooperation with the Ukraine into the investigation.
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Iran knew it was a shootdown right away. Leaked air traffic communications


https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/ukraine...sile-1.4794738
I like how you're both addressing the same event with entirely different narratives.

I think they could be accurately combined into:

"Iran refusing further cooperation with Ukrainian investigators, after being caught lying red-handed... Yet again."
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Old 07-16-2020, 06:33 AM   #547
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Iran acknowledges its troops shot down a passenger jet and killed 176 people, describing a string of colossal failures
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I'm still shocked that 63 Canadians were killed. So sad for those families.
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Old 07-16-2020, 09:11 AM   #549
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That entire situation is a disaster, but I am thankful that at least Iran came out and admitted their mistake and by all accounts are working with investigators to find the truth.

Still waiting for a single peep from Russia in regards to MH17...
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