Issue is that most people who buy those trucks don't encounter those issues more than 1-2 times a year. There are definitely people who that will be a big problem for, but there needs to be some kind of model where you rent something for those situations and use electric the rest of the time.
People don't drive around U-hauls all year for the one time a year they make a purchase that needs a truck to move it.
You aren't going to change the mentality. People drive trucks with pristine boxes that never have anything in them. But they still buy them. Unless you legislate that away, you have a very limited market for truck buyers who will accept limited range and extremely limiting towing.
Anyway, the bigger point is that battery production is going to be the limiting factor, and manufacturers are going to have to have ICE's in the lineup to cover that. Because it is a decade away, it still makes sense to invest in improvements on that end.
The spike coincides with a number of new incentives in Europe and a delay of EV subsidy phaseouts in China (plus a massive EV stock bubble). The question is how sustainable it is, no other European country is as rich as Norway and fuel taxes account for substantial revenue, plus Europe's electricity system will be increasingly stressed as many of the remaining coal and nuclear power plants are retired over the next decade.
Would like to see FCEV added to those bar charts as some models are publicly available (e.g. Toyota Mirai).
They're decreasing from an already irrelevant number. A total of 8500 total and over half in one country that is also seeing sales decrease (South Korea). It's dead
The spike coincides with a number of new incentives in Europe and a delay of EV subsidy phaseouts in China (plus a massive EV stock bubble). The question is how sustainable it is, no other European country is as rich as Norway and fuel taxes account for substantial revenue, plus Europe's electricity system will be increasingly stressed as many of the remaining coal and nuclear power plants are retired over the next decade.
The costs are decreasing and will continue to do so, and carbon prices are increasing fast. It seems to be pretty sustainable. If there's a market for more generation, someone will build it. I keep seeing price as an issue, but consider this:
The average vehicle price for a new vehicle last year was about $40,000. Many of the new EVs are in that range and their maintenance and fuel costs much lower. Once fleets go electric it will normalize.
I was listening to a podcast today about the crazy growth in EVs in the UK and the guest made an interesting observation. Both computers and cell phones began as government/corporate technologies first which normalized things before they became consumer commodities. The UK has a VAT on corporate vehicles which are hugely important there. The government waived taxes on EVs and that has created a large switch which is normalizing electric vehicles to become consumer commodities. I think once the calculus makes sense financially for corporate/government entities, the switch will be rapid
1 year of doubling isn't enough to call it a trend yet. If that number is quadruple for 2023 then we are looking at a hockey stick, right now we are looking at a bump.
Although anecdotally if you look at mine and my wifes immediate family in the past 12 months, we've gone from 16 ICE, 0 HB, 0 EVs to 12 ICE, 1 HB, 3 EV, so that's a pretty substantial rate of change.
They're decreasing from an already irrelevant number. A total of 8500 total and over half in one country that is also seeing sales decrease (South Korea). It's dead
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Sources please. California alone has 11000 cumulative sales of FCEVs over the last eight years.
I agree it's a small number relative to battery EVs, but lets not botch numbers here.
Read yesterday that wind is leading the way for new power generating installation in the US.
Quote:
42% of new electricity generation capacity in the U.S. came from land-based wind energy -- more than from any other source -- according to numbers in a series of reports from the Department of Energy (DOE) this week.
Off topic, but I really hate how the YouTube algorithm makes people have to put their contorted faces on the video thumbnails just to maximize exposure. There are some really good videos out there that look like YouTube Poop because of that stupid constraint.
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Globally a grand total of 27500 by 2020 year end. Total all time worldwide. It's shrinking and Honda is discontinuing the Clarity with no plans to replace. H2 for passenger cars is dead.
