02-07-2020, 08:17 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Cape Breton Island
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Flair Air unlimited travel option
https://globalnews.ca/news/6510388/f...=GlobalCalgary
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The unlimited flight pass costs $700 and opens the gate to limitless domestic flights between Feb. 13 and May 13 and includes one checked bag.
A $500 version has some blackout dates and excludes flights on Fridays and Sundays, as well as baggage.
The blackout dates are Feb. 14 to 17 (Family Day long weekend), March 20 to 30 (spring break), and April 10 to 13 (Easter long weekend).
Both versions of the pass do not include taxes and fees and the flights must be booked at least 48 hours in advance. Flair said the travel pass is not transferable.
Edmonton-based Flair offers routes between seven cities, all in Western Canada except for Toronto.
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Interesting promotion but I wonder what airport fees are for Abbotsford Calgary Winnipeg etc
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02-07-2020, 09:18 AM
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#2
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Ben
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: God's Country (aka Cape Breton Island)
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My big question is does that include a 'carrier surcharge'?
Kind of like how Aeroplan has free flights, but you still have to pay about half the cost of the ticket due to the carrier surcharge and airport fees.
The federal government needs to step in and eliminate the carrier surcharge. It's just a way for airlines to get around discount codes and loyalty redemption.
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02-07-2020, 10:11 AM
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#3
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Sector 7-G
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Can I put my Canada 3000 and JetsGo passes towards this pass?
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02-07-2020, 10:25 AM
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First Line Centre
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Blackouts for Fridays and Sundays means it's only doable for people who can travel midweek, not really that good for anyone looking for the odd weekend trip
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02-07-2020, 10:34 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Calgary
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Unlimited delays and lost luggage too. I won't ever fly that airline. They have no capacity to adjust to aircraft or crew problems.
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02-07-2020, 12:01 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Calgary14
Blackouts for Fridays and Sundays means it's only doable for people who can travel midweek, not really that good for anyone looking for the odd weekend trip
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The $500 pass has this restriction. The $700 pass does not.
If I'm looking at the Westjet buddy pass as a comparable, due to the airport fees and taxes and whatnot, often times, you're saving a few hundred per trip on the buddy pass. I'm guessing the situation is similar for this Flair pass. It's unlimited travel, but with the fees and whatnot, the actual savings per round trip is around $100-200? This means you'd have to fly 4-6 times in 3 months to make the pass worthwhile is my pure guess. This not taking into account the stupid fees for check in luggage these guys charge and their weird restrictions on carry on.
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02-07-2020, 12:44 PM
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Loves Teh Chat!
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Originally Posted by rotten42
Unlimited delays and lost luggage too. I won't ever fly that airline. They have no capacity to adjust to aircraft or crew problems.
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Agreed. But at least we're starting to see some more competition and price pressures for Air Canada and West Jet.
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02-07-2020, 12:50 PM
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Franchise Player
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The more expensive pass includes 1 checked bag.
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02-07-2020, 12:55 PM
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Playboy Mansion Poolboy
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Close enough to make a beer run during a TV timeout
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleF
This not taking into account the stupid fees for check in luggage these guys charge and their weird restrictions on carry on.
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Right near the top of the OP it does say it includes one checked bag.
I've used Flair a few times, and they saved me $300 this week on an emergency trip over what WestJet was going to be. Especially short flights like Calgary to Winnipeg- I don't need any frills; just a seat and a place to put my duffel bag. (Under the seat in front.)
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02-07-2020, 05:21 PM
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Isn’t this usually a sign of an undercooked airline on the verge of bankruptcy as oppose to a disruptive new model?
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02-07-2020, 05:34 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Calgary
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Doesn't sound too appealing to me. If it covered all costs, it might be okay, but the fees will add to quite a bit, I'm sure. Also, I wonder how available the flights will be?
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02-07-2020, 05:43 PM
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Ben
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: God's Country (aka Cape Breton Island)
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Originally Posted by GGG
Isn’t this usually a sign of an undercooked airline on the verge of bankruptcy as oppose to a disruptive new model?
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Not necessarily, these guys are doing ok: Another Airline's Flight Pass
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02-07-2020, 08:47 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Winchestertonfieldville Jail
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contemplating this so I can travel back and forth from Calgary quite last minute... but god damn this airline sucks so I dunno..
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02-08-2020, 04:49 PM
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Playboy Mansion Poolboy
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Close enough to make a beer run during a TV timeout
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Originally Posted by skudr248
but god damn this airline sucks so I dunno..
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I'm genuinely curious why you say they suck? The first time I flew them I was apprehensive due to a low review average, but then reading the reviews- most of the negative comments were due to the person not understanding the no frills nature of the airline.
Anyway, I did the quick math. I flew Flair this week and from Winnipeg to Calgary there was a total of $34 in fees that were part of the fare:
Purchase Summary
Leg Passenger Description Amount GST Total
1 0042,KEN YWG Arpt Improve Fee $25.00 $1.25 $26.25
1 0042,KEN NN - Regular Economy $138.35 $6.92 $145.27
1 0042,KEN Security Charge ATSC $7.12 $0.36 $7.48
Total $170.47 $8.53 $179.00
So assuming that the AIF is similar between airports, that would be $70 round trip. If I could fly every other weekend, that would be 7 trips in that span. It would average out to $170 round trip per weekend. With the flight I took being 2/3 full- that might be a good way for Flair to fill those seats and generate a little extra money.
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02-09-2020, 01:19 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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The $700 seems like the better deal, but worthwhile if you have to make a lot of trips to those destinations anyway.
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02-09-2020, 01:44 PM
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My question remains: what are the airport fees.
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02-09-2020, 01:54 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
My question remains: what are the airport fees.
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Depends on the airport.
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02-09-2020, 03:51 PM
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Franchise Player
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I get that, I guess I want a list given there are only like 6 airports involved. If it's just the $30 AIF for YYC plus taxes, fine. If they're adding on a bunch of other charges that bump the price up to $50+ each way, that deal becomes far less attractive.
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02-09-2020, 05:12 PM
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#19
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Section 203
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
My question remains: what are the airport fees.
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If you actually want your question answered, there is a simple solution that will take under 5 minutes to achieve. Go to their website. Attempt to book round trip flights. See the price breakdown between flight, fees, and taxes. Done. Now that we've conquered the most difficult question on CP, we can move onto the second most difficult which is what type of soap should someone buy.
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02-09-2020, 05:16 PM
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#20
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by squiggs96
If you actually want your question answered, there is a simple solution that will take under 5 minutes to achieve. Go to their website. Attempt to book round trip flights. See the price breakdown between flight, fees, and taxes. Done.
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The problem is that many times airlines will have various surcharges and the base fare will be very low. So if all you are getting is the base fare and you are paying half of what the flight would typically cost in "fees" it's not such a great deal. If it's truly only AIF and taxes, that's a better deal. I don't care enough to look into it, but if anyone is considering buying the pass, they should.
My other concern would be availability. I find that places that take your money up front and promise you something in the future tend not to have availability when you want to use it.
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