C'mon, we totally need a thread on a forum about a Canadian hockey team that is (so far) mostly stories of American racism in general! Every forum needs one!
Canada isnt much better. We just dont have the same amount of studies dont on this topic as they have done in the states on black people. But we tell ourselves that we dont have racism here because Canada is friendly eh.
And couldn't be arsed to actually quote them, making someone else do your legwork for you. "It's not a claim. It's a fact." No, it's a claim until you actually provide evidence of your statement having some truth to it.
If the thread is that important, maybe don't be so lazy next time.
I'm not a techno savvy type and I dont know what half the buttons do on this site. Call it lazy if you want. No skin off my back.
C'mon, we totally need a thread on a forum about a Canadian hockey team that is (so far) mostly stories of American racism in general! Every forum needs one!
Cha, bros! Making a difference one internet post at a time! What we're doing here is important! Crucial! Kony 2012 fam!
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I'm glad there's a thread like this, thanks for starting it icecube.
Illuminating racist and oppressive actions is an important education to those who still see the world as fractured, and humans, different. If it's too uncomfortable for you, look away, better yet look inside yourself.
No one, whether by race, sex, orientation, religion should be oppressed or faced with prejudice. Period.
And couldn't be arsed to actually quote them, making someone else do your legwork for you. "It's not a claim. It's a fact." No, it's a claim until you actually provide evidence of your statement having some truth to it.
Actually, that’s not really true. A fact can be a fact without providing the evidence directly, so long as the evidence exists (in this case, it did). A claim would be a statement without evidence or proof (and one that doesn’t necessarily depend on it, such as a POV, an inference, or a personal judgement, something qualitative).
I could tell you my name, and it would be a fact, I don’t have to show you my driver’s license to make it so. I could say over 60 million people were killed in WWII. It’s a fact, even without me linking you to the source. Your knowledge of whether it’s a fact or not is subjective, but it being a fact (or not) is not, so what you know is irrelevant to “fact status.”
Not that it has anything to do with the thread, I just thought it was an interesting point you tried to make.
I like how in any other thread deemed "unimportant" everyone involved just tells everyone else to ignore the thread, but in this one, a page of pile-ons is apparently necessary and encouraged.
"Oh this board is totally not right-of-centre!" *fart noises*
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Cha, bros! Making a difference one internet post at a time! What we're doing here is important! Crucial! Kony 2012 fam!
Your condescending attempt to derail the thread says more about you than anything I can. Are you threatened by anti racist stuff or something? Do you care to add anything of substance?
Actually, that’s not really true. A fact can be a fact without providing the evidence directly, so long as the evidence exists (in this case, it did). A claim would be a statement without evidence or proof (and one that doesn’t necessarily depend on it, such as a POV, an inference, or a personal judgement, something qualitative).
I could tell you my name, and it would be a fact, I don’t have to show you my driver’s license to make it so. I could say over 60 million people were killed in WWII. It’s a fact, even without me linking you to the source. Your knowledge of whether it’s a fact or not is subjective, but it being a fact (or not) is not, so what you know is irrelevant to “fact status.”
Not that it has anything to do with the thread, I just thought it was an interesting point you tried to make.
Apologies, it was expedient wording on my part.
I wasn't challenging whether or not it was a fact, so I'll happily grant you that facts are facts whether or not they are known to the person to whom they are being presented. I was challenging his assertion that it wasn't a claim. I can make a factual claim and no one is under any obligation to believe me without evidence. And making a claim that someone said X without providing some sort of substantiation for that claim isn't going to get one taken very seriously.
Fortunately, since icecube doesn't feel like searching / doesn't know how to search / is just too lazy to search, people who know how to use the forum can come to his rescue. I mean, this thread is really, really important. I hear the UN is sending a delegate from each nation to the forum as we speak.
I like how in any other thread deemed "unimportant" everyone involved just tells everyone else to ignore the thread, but in this one, a page of pile-ons is apparently necessary and encouraged.
"Oh this board is totally not right-of-centre!" *fart noises*
Oh please. I'm demonstrably left-of-centre, and I still think his dramatics are worthy of ridicule.
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Oh please. I'm demonstrably left-of-centre, and I still think his dramatics are worthy of ridicule.
Wasn't trying to be dramatic. I seriously do think this thread is important. There are people of colour fighting for equality, fighting for their lives. That's not an exaggeration nor am I trying to be high and mighty or virtue signaling when I say that. I'm sincere and this stuff is important to me. Laugh it up though.
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Canada isnt much better. We just dont have the same amount of studies dont on this topic as they have done in the states on black people. But we tell ourselves that we dont have racism here because Canada is friendly eh.
I don’t think that’s completely accurate. I went to the Civil Rights Museum in Atlanta last year and what took place in recent history in the US is a stark contrast to what we have seen in Canada. I don’t deny that there is racism here in Canada, and I think it’s particularly notable against certain groups, but in the US they had legislation that was incredibly racist. I expected that a lot of that was dealt with before my time, but some of these laws and regulations persisted until the late 90’s. That’s pretty unbelievable.
Really, the US and their race issues are just so much more pronounced than what we see here. Race is really a non-issue in Canadian society, whereas it’s still a noticeable difference in the US.
