I need a new TV series to get into (old or new) v2

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Machiavelli

13 Reasons Why is such a frustrating watch.

I thought the second season was pretty good actually. Which surprised me, especially since at times I thought it jumped the shark, but it quickly redeemed itself.

I can see that being frustrating. I think the issue I had with it was that its a show that really takes itself very seriously, and it has to considering it's subject matter, at times that works well and at times that is eye-rolling-ridiculous.

But I've dealt with bullying at a lot of levels, but never suicide, but I know someone who was bullied relentlessly in high school and she cant watch that show. She considers it too emotionally 'on point' and as such I give it a lot of consideration because if someone who was bullied feels that way then maybe this show is hitting close to the mark.

[Machiavelli]

I'm glad the second season was good, because this first one is trying me. Very slow, and the acting isn't great. The Tony character makes me cringe.

I'm just failing to see what the point of all these damn tapes is. Such a meandering storyline.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Machiavelli

I'm glad the second season was good, because this first one is trying me. Very slow, and the acting isn't great. The Tony character makes me cringe.

I'm just failing to see what the point of all these damn tapes is. Such a meandering storyline.

They're her Suicide note.

Instead of 'woe is me' shes trying to show people all of the things that they willfully and purposely ignore during their daily lives so that they arent bothered.

That it wasnt one person's fault. It was a collective effort. And if someone feels the entire world is against them, guess what looks like an attractive option?

Anyways, it is a hard show, and its not always great, but we stuck with it and even when it lags or goes off the rails (and it does) there is still meaning there and a real perspective that is difficult to obtain.

[ResAlien]

The second season of Luke Cage was the best Netflix Marvel series yet IMO. That was excellent.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

The second season of Luke Cage was the best Netflix Marvel series yet IMO. That was excellent.

Better than The Punisher?
Tall order, friend.
I guess I better finally get at that first season then!

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

Better than The Punisher?
Tall order, friend.
I guess I better finally get at that first season then!

The first season of Luke Cage was mediocre. Meandered and didn’t know what it wanted to do. I honestly had forgotten about Punisher but I’d still say yeah, I liked this second Luke Cage best out of all the marvel series. Maybe it’s because it was what I wanted the first go round to be.

[Weitz]

I started watching: All of Nothing: Arizona Cardinals on Amazon Prime last night. Pretty good show so far.

[savemedrzaius]

I've been watching Braindead. I guess it was cancelled but it isn`t a bad show.

Kind of an 80s alien body snatcher premise but set around modern Washington.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

I started watching Suits. To call it a guilty pleasure would be an understatement. This may be the stupidest, most outlandish and unrealistic show I've ever watched. But I enjoy it and can't stop watching.

[Jiri Hrdina]

I've started watching two new shows
Narcos - I'm late to the game I know
The Toys that Made Us - what a great series of documentaries. For anyone that grew up in the 80s this is just fantastic.

[nik-]

I've been trying to avoid that Toys That Made Us show because I don't wanna get hit by a nostalgia tsunami.

[CliffFletcher]

Narcos might be my favourite Netflix show of the last couple years. It manages to be dramatic and intense without being outlandish and dumbed-down.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

I started watching Suits. To call it a guilty pleasure would be an understatement. This may be the stupidest, most outlandish and unrealistic show I've ever watched. But I enjoy it and can't stop watching.

My wife and I got hooked on Suits for a while. Just a great, fun show to watch.

Wildly unrealistic, but fun.

[EldrickOnIce]

Anyone watch the premiere of Sharp Objects on HBO last night?
We will catch up with it tonight or tomorrow. Really looking forward to this

[Cecil Terwilliger]

The beginning of the end for HBO. #### you AT&T.

https://gizmodo.com/at-ts-big-plan-f...m-t-1827449321

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

The second season of Luke Cage was the best Netflix Marvel series yet IMO. That was excellent.

I had totally given up on these shows after Defenders, Iron Fist and to an extent season 1 of Luke Cage.

Your recommendation has my curiosity piqued but still wavering. There is so much good TV now.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

The beginning of the end for HBO. #### you AT&T.

https://gizmodo.com/at-ts-big-plan-f...m-t-1827449321

HBO is a dinosaur. "They stick with what works"... uhh, no, they stick with a ####ing terrible delivery method and so everyone pirates their shows.

If any network needs a kick in the ass to wake up to the new reality, it's HBO.

How long did it take them to get HBO Go going? 6-7 years behind the curve?

[gottabekd]

Originally Posted by nik-

HBO is a dinosaur. "They stick with what works"... uhh, no, they stick with a ####ing terrible delivery method and so everyone pirates their shows.

If any network needs a kick in the ass to wake up to the new reality, it's HBO.

How long did it take them to get HBO Go going? 6-7 years behind the curve?

I actually 100% disagree. When HBO Go launched, it was about 2 years ahead of the curve I'd say. They had a super successful and profitable arrangement with cable companies, but they were smart enough to see the respective trends of cable TV and Netflix and took the initiative to build a completely standalone delivery system so they could sell directly to the consumer. Not many businesses have the guts to make such a pivot. I think the market would eventually have forced their hand, but I give HBO props for having some foresight.

When one can pay $15/month for all HBO content and watch on-demand on any device with no commercials, there is no justification to pirate the content.

Now, in Canada, of course its a different story. Bell owns the rights to HBO content (rumoured until 2020, and who knows, they might strike a new deal). Bell did not follow HBO's lead and make the content available standalone. They are the dinosaurs refusing to meet the consumer demands. They have at least started making 1+ year old HBO content available standalone via CraveTV, but this isn't enough to satisfy the consumer demands for a popular 'watercooler' show like Game of Thrones. Under this model, it is no surprise if piracy is rampant.

As for the future of HBO content, I agree with the article. HBO is a sign of quality. Netflix originals were novel for the first year or two, but now it's often the sign of content that couldn't find a buyer anywhere else. Is it worth diluting the HBO brand just to get people to watch for more hours? Can't we just have Netflix for filler, and HBO for the must-see stuff? As it stands, I'd be happy to pay more for 2 hours of quality HBO content than 6 hours of hit-and-miss Netflix content.

But about Netflix content...I just love GLOW. Binged through season 2 too quickly, and now I'm going back to enjoy season 1 again. Marc Maron is particularly good this season, Betty Gilpin is solid, and Alison Brie is one of the best actresses working today.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by nik-

HBO is a dinosaur. "They stick with what works"... uhh, no, they stick with a ####ing terrible delivery method and so everyone pirates their shows.

If any network needs a kick in the ass to wake up to the new reality, it's HBO.

How long did it take them to get HBO Go going? 6-7 years behind the curve?

That article had absolutely nothing to do with their delivery method. AT&T in no way plans to make HBO an online platform like Netflix.

The article is about how they choose their shows and produce them. HBO is carefully curated and they tend not to just greenlight every piece of #### that comes their way and hope it sticks, which is exactly what Netflix does.
It also points out that HBO is hugely profitable and Netflix and other streaming services are not. AT&T wants HBO to be a crappy network pumping out high volume of low quality garbage so that they can use the data they gather to monetize their customers in other ways. AT&T doesn't care at all about making good shows. They care about harvesting HBO viewers to sell them other crap.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

The Toys that Made Us - what a great series of documentaries. For anyone that grew up in the 80s this is just fantastic.

My boy wants to watch that, is it appropriate for a 12 yr old?