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Old 12-10-2010, 01:33 PM   #1
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I need to replace a file server at work. I'm thinking up to about 2T in storage. I am trying to think of the best way to go with the 3 choices.
Anyone have any opinions, they'd like to share with me.
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Old 12-10-2010, 01:47 PM   #2
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Impossible to say with that little info
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Old 12-10-2010, 02:21 PM   #3
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It depends on your budget and what infrastructure you have.

A server with an array is normally the less hassle way to go.

New HP Server 2008 with array and warranty will run you about 25K - we just recently purchased 2 - doesnt include UPS if you run servers on individual UPS

4U total size if rack space is an issue.
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It depends on your budget and what infrastructure you have.

A server with an array is normally the less hassle way to go.

New HP Server 2008 with array and warranty will run you about 25K - we just recently purchased 2 - doesnt include UPS if you run servers on individual UPS

4U total size if rack space is an issue.
25k sounds pretty data centerish.
I was thinking around 5 - 10, and it would be a Dell.
Not sure what to say about infrastructure. It would be connected to a Cisco 3750 switch serving clients. Files only, no programs.
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25k sounds pretty data centerish.
I was thinking around 5 - 10, and it would be a Dell.
Not sure what to say about infrastructure. It would be connected to a Cisco 3750 switch serving clients. Files only, no programs.
How many users/clients?
How much data per user/in total?
What type of access will they need for the data?
Windows/Linux/other?
Security requirements for the data?
Why Dell? (just curious about this)

All of these questions (and more) must be answered before you can begin to get a feel for what you need to consider.
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Old 12-10-2010, 04:13 PM   #6
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How many users/clients?
70 - 90 depending

How much data per user/in total?
who know per user/ but total right now is 250 gb. Want to go to 2 tb.

What type of access will they need for the data?
simple file access?

Windows/Linux/other?
Windows only

Security requirements for the data?
security groups, file/folder security

Why Dell? (just curious about this)
why not?

All of these questions (and more) must be answered before you can begin to get a feel for what you need to consider
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An HP ML 330 G6 would be a decent starting point. Minimal CPU (eg. a base 4 core Xeon) and 4 GB of RAM is all you need, you can plow the rest of your funds into redundant power supplies, hot-spare disk, battery backed RAID controller, and a backup solution.

The ML330 has room for 8 LFF SATA or SAS drives plus an internal LTO tape drive. The base server is quite affordable; you're going to be spending all your money on disk and the tape drive. It's not going to run anywhere near 25k like the poster above suggested.

That's all the advice you get for free though.
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You could probably fit the storage you need in a base model Poweredge T410, holds up to 6 drives, and comes with a minimum 6GB of RAM (which is going to be extreme overkill IMHO). If your future storage needs during the lifespan of the server are going to bypass 3-4 TB, then you could upgrade to the T610, as it has 8 drive bays.

As sclith said, most of your money will go into disk, tape drive, and of course the 24/7 warranty. The one thing I have noticed purchasing servers this past year for the non-profit organization I work for, is that a 5 year warranty isn't that much more than a 3 year warranty, so we always seemed to get it. However you also need to factor in the usefulness of the server in those last 2 years. Will it need to be upgraded before then, making the extra warranty useless? For us, since we are never sure when we will be getting funding for IT, the 5 year was a no-brainer for us.
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