[Signing] Vegas extends Noah Hanifin (8 years, $7.35m AAV)

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I'm sure the Flames would have gladly have him accept that offer. Takes him to age 35 and with his wheels he should still be useful and by then $7 million will be 4/5th defensemen money. Good deal for both parties as he's massively underrated by Flames fans and he's just starting to close in on his prime years.

Yeah, at this contract he is still movable in the first few years at least. I wouldn't have hated him re-signing with the Flames. Not overly torn up on it though

[CSharp]

That's not a bad signing for VGK until they see the real soft Hanifin that we saw as a Flames. I think I like Miromanov already!

[FlamesFanFromBC]

To bad they can't do the additional conditions that allow for extra picks if player re-signs.

[Jay Random]

Miromanov is good at flashy offensive plays, but as an all-round defenceman he's not fit to tie Hanifin's skates.

[DoubleK]

That Nurse contract keeps looking more worser.

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by Groot

https://twitter.com/user/status/1307480088800182272

Just like being a business in Alberta just as you don't overpay yourself since it'll be two tax systems you will have to pay taxes on.

[SuperMatt18]

The only thing about that Walsh post is that he's not wrong - but it also means the player has to defer money to retirement.

Players like having the money now, and they can have more money right now if they play in the areas that are taxed less.

Similar to why players dont' like escrow.

[Johnny Makarov]

Vegas better hope he doesn't put a dud in the playoffs like he did against the Oilers.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Vegas better hope he doesn't put a dud in the playoffs like he did against the Oilers.

The entire team was a dud against the Oilers. It's foolish to single Hanifin out for that.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

The entire team was a dud against the Oilers. It's foolish to single Hanifin out for that.

I dare you to go back and watch it! Hanifin, Rasmus and Markstrom put on ALL time NHL worst playoff performances in those 5 games.

Hanifin had one good play when he knocked a puck out of the air on the PP and we scored. Rasmus had one good play in the 180 foot goal he scored from our own end.

Markstrom had effing zip all in those 5 games.

[GirlySports]

... and then immediately placed him on LTIR effective October 1st?

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Sure. I still never really saw anything from Noah Hanifin during his tenure, save for a brief two-month stretch in his final year, that would justify paying him $7.35m until he's, what, 35? Would've been totally wrong for the Flames.

I don't really agree with the first part of your post - I think a player like Hanifin, as vanilla as he may be, is probably worth about this on the market. It's not a bad contract.

Having said that, the bold part is still 100% accurate. The Flames keeping him would have just been the wrong move. They would have gone nowhere had they extended Hanifin (and the others). The Flames needed to start rebuilding, and thankfully they made that choice.

*don't mess it up in free agency, Connie*

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

I dare you to go back and watch it! Hanifin, Rasmus and Markstrom put on ALL time NHL worst playoff performances in those 5 games.

The whole team was bad.

By the way, ‘ALL time NHL worst’ is a ridiculous exaggeration. I've seen scores of players in NHL games who wouldn't even be drafted nowadays. Hell, I've seen Nick Fotiu skating and Doug Dadswell in goal. You don't know what ‘all-time worst’ is even like.

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

The only thing about that Walsh post is that he's not wrong - but it also means the player has to defer money to retirement.

Players like having the money now, and they can have more money right now if they play in the areas that are taxed less.

Similar to why players dont' like escrow.

And it is being challenged in Russ Martin, Donaldson, and Bautista instances (maybe they weren't counting days in/out of Canada though correctly...not sure).

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

The only thing about that Walsh post is that he's not wrong - but it also means the player has to defer money to retirement.

Players like having the money now, and they can have more money right now if they play in the areas that are taxed less.

Similar to why players dont' like escrow.

Plus it's a deferment and on the level of income, it's still going to be a high tax rate (especially if they retire in a higher tax jurisdiction).

That Walsh clip comes up every time taxes are discussed but the fact is that players care about the tax rates in different places. Maybe they are being too simplistic and not trying for long term tax savings that even it out, but it's just a fact of like in the NHL that taxes matter.

[dissentowner]

Why does it seem like Vegas always has neverending cap space.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Why does it seem like Vegas always has neverending cap space.

...because they don't hand out inflated free agent contracts to low/mid-tier players on contracts that take them into declining years, and they manage their team proactively enough that they're willing to make tough decisions (Reilly Smith).

They also manage the rules within the salary cap better than most other teams.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Hell, I've seen Nick Fotiu skating and Doug Dadswell in goal. You don't know what ‘all-time worst’ is even like.

Damn those were the days.

[Bend it like Bourgeois]

Seems about the current rate.

I think the taxes thing is minor compared to no winter, great facilities, competitive team with a chance to win.

[Finger Cookin]

Hanifin's a good one, glad to see him get paid.