Hawkeye (Disney+ show) [Spoiler tags, please]

[KTrain]

Ahhh, you use "woke" as a derogatory term. You're one of those sci-fi fans.

[OutOfTheCube]

Originally Posted by KTrain

Ahhh, you use "woke" as a derogatory term. You're one of those sci-fi fans.

I just think it's a boring character getting their own show specifically because they check a lot of those boxes. No need to get personal.

[KTrain]

The problem is that using the phrases "checking all the boxes" and "woke" when referring to minority characters being given staring roles in sci-fi and superhero TV/movies is an issue. There's a segment of fandom that uses those terms when a popular character is given a female or minority alternate or someone of a different ethnicity is cast as a character who is white in the original source material.

We've mostly seen characters on the big screen who were created in the 50s/60s/70s to target white kids with extra pocket money. It's fine to update them to target a wider audience without getting upset that they don't look the same as they did when you read the comics.

So now we have a character who was created 22 years ago as a Native American, deaf, woman (with 2 legs) introduced as a supporting character, who is getting her own series, and suddenly they're checking minority boxes.

In the comics Echo was actually Ronin for a time, so having her introduced in Hawkeye makes perfect sense. If Daredevil didn't get cancelled I'm sure she would have shown up there first.

If you get a chance, read some of her stories. Especially the Daredevil stuff. It's great.

[Duruss]

Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

I just think it's a boring character getting their own show specifically because they check a lot of those boxes. No need to get personal.

The problem with your opinion is that you are missing the key detail. Marvel has always been progressive for the times and evolved to stay current, Echo getting her own show is on brand.

Like have people not been paying attention to teams like the X-Men? Turns out some have not as they complain about the freaking X-men being too woke/diverse now. Marvels tag line was, "The world out side your window".