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Originally Posted by Itse
You can.
But the thing is, there are many ways to make that argument. You can say that it's a dumb thing to say, that there is something seriously wrong with saying those kinds of things.
And then you can say that those people shouldn't be saying that about us. Which is again what's happening here.
The latter is the American way of going about these arguments. Who has the right to say what.
It's really a very typical line of thinking for the US anyway, discussing whether or not some other people in another part of the world are exercising their rights in a way that Americans can agree with. Do these people have the right to fight back, are these people within their rights to tell us to leave their country? Is it okay for those people to vote that way? Can these guys have this kind of a government? Should we do something about the people over there who say they hate us?
I guess you could just call it poor self esteem. But I don't buy that. I just call it not actually believing in the rights of other people.
Then again, the US citizens rights are on a definite downward spiral too, so I guess at least it's a somewhat fair game.
It's just too bad the US has always been a trendsetter, in good and bad.
And I'm fairly sure you are saying things which you don't really believe in because you feel it supports your argument. Unless of course you were born yesterday and have never heard aggressive pop lyrics.
Also, those lyrics are very much taken out of context. Judging a piece of lyrics out of context is being deliberately stupid. (Or actually stupid, but I think that's actually a rare quality in people.)
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Saying someone shouldn't be saying something about us has absolutely nothing inherently to do about being against freedom of speech unless people are actively calling for some form of censorship here. Are they? If so, please direct me to it, and I'll read it. Your statement about the "American" way of going about an argument means nothing to me except revealing an obvious bias of your own.
As for taking the lyrics out of context, please enlighten me of what the context is, and how talking about killing mothers, etc. is applicable to it.
