Russian Navy fires on and captures Ukrainian Warships

[Agamemnon]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I think that its hard to make the connection between pre-WW1 and the current situation mainly because the modern world intertwinning is so different, plus a large part f the major war between the great powers was based around the whole secret alliances, plus familiar connections.

I don't believe that anyone in the modern war has lost the belief that nation state wars cold happen, it just faded into the background in the dawn of the war on terror.

I'm not saying the world is the same as it was prior to WWI, but I am saying that, in history, there has been a mistaken belief that tying economies closer together alleviates the threat of war. It's an interesting theory, but I don't think it holds true personally or historically. In the end, politics, nationalism, competitiveness, racism, etc. will 'trump' economics as a national motivator (in my opinion).

Just look at Russia... the actions they are taking are not, in my mind, economically motivated. They are motivated by some of the above.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Agamemnon

This was the argument prior to WWI, that a major war between great powers was inconceivable because their economies were so intertwined and interconnected. Turned out it didn't matter, they just bit the economic bullet and went to war anyway.

They also thought that the war would only last months. WWI was a huge mistake in hindsight.

[opendoor]

Russia's aggression towards Ukraine is more about maintaining a buffer and a sphere of influence. It's a defensive measure to ensure that they don't have NATO or a strong US ally right on their border.

And they know they can take these actions because no Western power is going to take part in WWIII to prop up the mess that is the Ukranian government.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

They also thought that the war would only last months. WWI was a huge mistake in hindsight.

There ain't too many wars that aren't a huge mistake in hindsight.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by opendoor

Russia's aggression towards Ukraine is more about maintaining a buffer and a sphere of influence. It's a defensive measure to ensure that they don't have NATO or a strong US ally right on their border.

And they know they can take these actions because no Western power is going to take part in WWIII to prop up the mess that is the Ukranian government.

I believe they also view the need for that buffer because they know factions in both the US and UK desperately want regime change in Russia.

The old Russian Bear chicken/Egg argument.

[JoseCuervo]

Putin today saying Ukraine orchestrated the entire navel event, and Baron Von K laps that koolaid up.

Meanwhile Russian troop convoys head towards the Border.

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=kjKqs_1543336385

[White Out 403]

https://www.rt.com/news/445050-putin...t-provocation/

‘Kiev would get away even with eating babies’: Putin says Kerch Strait standoff is a provocation

If they demand babies for breakfast, they would probably be served babies. They’d say: ‘Why not, they are hungry, what is to be done about it?’ This is such a shortsighted policy and it cannot have a good outcome. It makes the Ukrainian leadership complacent, gives them no incentive to do normal political work in their country or pursue a normal economic policy.

God Putin is such a dick.

edit: Jesus Christ if you think Foxnews comments are bad, go read Russia Today. Holy #### Russians are racist lmao.