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Old 04-22-2020, 11:29 AM   #1
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Greg Wyshynski @wyshynski
Confirming @FriedgeHNIC report that the NHL's "neutral site" (i.e. non-NHL arena) plan for summer restart is dead. No North Dakota. No New Hampshire.

Plan never got out of the concept stages due to lack of accommodations, and challenges in staging and televising games.


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Latest push is for NHL to return to 2-4 of its arenas in areas where the COVID-19 outbreak has been managed and restrictions would allow it. Very much targeting completion of the regular season. No timetable. NHLPA needs to sign off on any of it.


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JUST IN: NHL looking at restarting season in July.

Games would be played at 4 or 5 neutral sites with limited or no fans, according to Florida Panthers president Matt Caldwell.

On the conference call, he said this plan is not finalized.
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Old 04-22-2020, 11:39 AM   #2
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And of course, because Dreger didn't break this he is being the first to poo poo it.
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Old 04-22-2020, 11:39 AM   #3
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I think that restrictions are very close to being relaxed in Winnipeg
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Old 04-22-2020, 11:40 AM   #4
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Huh.....

I'm assuming they'd go with a model of multiple games a day in the same stadium. Would give the whole thing kind of an international tournament kind of feel.

If it can be done safely, I'm all for it.
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Sounded like they want one arena in each division (I think Friedman suggested this)?
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Old 04-22-2020, 11:49 AM   #6
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If the NHL doesnt want fans in the building, it only makes sense to pick Florida
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Old 04-22-2020, 11:53 AM   #7
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I think at this point I would rather the season just be forgotten.

Too long of a break, public gyms and ice closed. Players are unlikely to be in game shape. Playing without and audience would have a scrimmage possibly emotionless feel.
I have low confidence that the Flames can start hot after so much time off.
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Old 04-22-2020, 11:57 AM   #8
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I wonder if they have considered the few arenas belong to non-playoff teams. Otherwise, its a pretty big advantage for some.
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Old 04-22-2020, 12:05 PM   #9
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Focus should be on figuring out the logistics of 20-21 and if it can happen in some shortened manner. Any time spent examining this season is wasted.
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Old 04-22-2020, 12:08 PM   #10
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If they are not going to have fans i think they should hold the games in some community arena. Get the players used to terrible conditions and their impending 50% paycut.
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Old 04-22-2020, 12:13 PM   #11
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Just cancel the damn thing and focus on next year already.
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Old 04-22-2020, 12:13 PM   #12
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I don't see how those are neutral sites. Unless they are having the teams playing in a location that is outside of their conference/division. It would be quite the home advantage for the Oilers if the Pacific division playoffs were played there.
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I don't see how those are neutral sites. Unless they are having the teams playing in a location that is outside of their conference/division. It would be quite the home advantage for the Oilers if the Pacific division playoffs were played there.
There's still going to be no fans in the building, so I doubt it matters much.

That said, just kill the season, it's over. Worry about a plan for 20/21.

Edit: I guess the tweet says 'limited' fans. Not sure what that means. I guess that might be a small advantage for the home teams of those buildings.
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Re: preparing for next season

Some thoughts

Next season, maybe in its entirety, will be played in empty arenas. How does the league, and the players, prepare for this and how can the league try to monetize this? Sell additional ad spaces on the tarps & curtains? Sounds dumb but its worth considering. Gate losses will need to be offset somewhat and somehow. The completion of this season and the playoffs give them a chance to test this.

The NHL will also take this time to prove to potential bidders for their next TV deal that they can run the league day to day, game to game and provide a proper television experience given less than ideal circumstances.

They have a lot to prove and a lot to recoup by trying to complete this year.

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Just cancel the damn thing and focus on next year already.
In my mind, this season is already done. All of this is just chatter.

They should spend this time working on next years product, which will likely also be some kind of Frankenstein version of a regular season. I would guess that pre-season and up to half of the regular season will be in front of empty stadiums, so they should start figuring out a way of not only making the experience excellent for the television audience, but how to make the players on the ice feel engaged.

How about setting up an option for fans to mic into the arena sound system, and create a cacophony of sound reacting to the game. Muffle the individual words so that there is no swearing, but allow there to be a natural flow to the cheering to keep the audience and players engaged.
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I'm for it. There's nothing saying they can't do this AND work on a plan for next season. Heck this may be a trial for next season. Have heard some really good interviews and insight today on Writer's Block surrounding these ideas. Florida, though taking a ton of criticism, has deemed pro sports and entertainment as an essential service (not just the WWE) and with th e stroke of a pen any other state could do the same. They've been down playing the neutral sight idea but really Saskatoon really suits the bill for this type of event. Winnipeg would also be ideal as These two areas really seem to have things under control when it comes to Covid spread, Brunt as mentioned St Johns NL as they have not had a new case in 4-5 days now with only like 50 cases total in th province.

Playing in empty arenas will lead to the implementation of new technologies and practices in sports which would've previously been snubbed at by purists (electronic strike zone, mics on players, etc...).
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They are totally dreaming if they think "limited fans" can partake in this responsibly.

I yearn for hockey but they need to get the idea of fan attendance out of their minds right now- IMO it presents the entirely likely scenario that they would have to shut right back down because of exposure at one of the sites.
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Old 04-22-2020, 01:23 PM   #18
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Forget about the summer. The NHL should be thinking about how they're going to operate in October, because it's likely restrictions against large gatherings will continue right through 2020.
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It all makes sense, because the season is already paid for by the owners. Next years games would be problematic, there is no way the owners pay full salaries without any revenue.
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Old 04-22-2020, 01:39 PM   #20
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