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Old 01-29-2023, 10:35 AM   #9161
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Let’s say Pelletier continues to impress which also gets going Huderdeau and the Habs win the Connor Bedard lottery, do you think a trade would be possible?

2 Quebecois under Marty St-Louis in Montreal and finally a # 1 center for the Flames!

Of course Habs would have sold at trading deadline so they would have cap to fit Huby’a contract.
Why would Montreal, who are in a rebuild, want a guy who is turning 30 in June?
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Let’s say Pelletier continues to impress which also gets going Huderdeau and the Habs win the Connor Bedard lottery, do you think a trade would be possible?

2 Quebecois under Marty St-Louis in Montreal and finally a # 1 center for the Flames!

Of course Habs would have sold at trading deadline so they would have cap to fit Huby’a contract.
I think you might have made the worst trade proposal in forum history my guy
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Let’s say Pelletier continues to impress which also gets going Huderdeau and the Habs win the Connor Bedard lottery, do you think a trade would be possible?

2 Quebecois under Marty St-Louis in Montreal and finally a # 1 center for the Flames!

Of course Habs would have sold at trading deadline so they would have cap to fit Huby’a contract.
You are talking: Huberdeau+Pelletier+Lindholm+3 1sts for Bedard right?
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Old 01-29-2023, 11:16 AM   #9164
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Even then it doesn’t get it done
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I think he will be better as soon as he has a legitimate top 6 wing on the other side. That could be in 5 weeks or less.
I sure hope not. The last thing this organization can afford to do is trade more assets away for rentals. The fact that the backup goaltender is the best goaltender on the team right now is indicative of a team that's not going to go far this season.
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Old 01-29-2023, 11:40 AM   #9166
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Bedard-Caufield >>>>>>>>>> whatever ppl throw at the habs
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I sure hope not. The last thing this organization can afford to do is trade more assets away for rentals. The fact that the backup goaltender is the best goaltender on the team right now is indicative of a team that's not going to go far this season.
Agreed. I don’t think Treliving will be looking at rentals. Perhaps a low-level one, like Luke Schenn at a reasonable cost (ie a 4th round pick) but I don’t see it for a top 6 forward. The guys I could see the Flames having interest in depending on how the team performs between now and the deadline are:

Duclair - 2 years left including this year
Meier - pending RFA
Koenekny - term left, although Seravelli doesn’t think he is available
Anderson - mentioned this last page

I’m with you though, that I don’t think the Flames should be dealing picks/prospects, especially given how the season has gone go date. The team would have to put it all together pretty quickly. As Treliving has said in the past, you take your queue’s from the team. I haven’t seen anything to date that would suggest Treliving be aggressive at the deadline. He’s also been on record saying something to the effect that he only moves first’s for players with term. In other words, I don’t see Tarasenko or RoR coming unless it’s for an absurdly low price.
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What is Anderson @50 percent retained worth?
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Old 01-29-2023, 12:04 PM   #9169
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$2.75m
He would fetch at least a 1st, 2nd and prospect IMO
The more Montreal eats the more they get
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Old 01-29-2023, 12:07 PM   #9170
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What is Anderson @50 percent retained worth?
He has four years left on his deal. Montreal isn’t retaining.
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Old 01-29-2023, 12:27 PM   #9171
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I doubt the Panthers trade Duclair, they will just circumvent the cap like everyone else in cap trouble
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Old 01-29-2023, 01:11 PM   #9172
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A 1st for Anderson? Even with 50% cap retained is a severe overpayment. A guy on pace for 29pts is the ideal winger for Huberdeau?
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Old 01-29-2023, 01:20 PM   #9173
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You don't like him but that doesn't mean there isn't 1 of 31 GMs who won't do that.
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Old 01-29-2023, 01:22 PM   #9174
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$2.75m
He would fetch at least a 1st, 2nd and prospect IMO
The more Montreal eats the more they get
No he wouldn't. He would fetch a 1st and maybe a project prospect. This is Josh Anderson, not Timmo Meier.
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This flames team likely has put themselves in a spot for some bargain level buying. I don’t really want them moving their 2nd but that and middling prospects are pretty much all I want them spending and going after a guy like Domi to fill a need on the wing. Ideally Pelletier takes a step, Zary gets a look and Kylington comes back. Even Coronato signing could provide a boost but I doubt he would get a look with Sutter. If they go 10-1-1 before they deadline that won’t change my mind that they should try and keep their assets through the deadline.
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The Coronato fretting, while somewhat warranted should be disapating with every game Pelletier plays. Especially considering that Coronato is a higher tier prospect and at a position of ....let's throw some emphasis on this...a dire need (RHS RW/C).

I've been more than impressed with Pelletiers usage and his ability to fit in. I have little doubt that Coronato can do it better and sooner.

Next season can't come soon enough because if the Flames play this right, Coronato will join for the final push this year, and then next year we have a whole platoon of youth coming in adding some of that hutzpah a lot of us would like to see with an injection of youth.

I'd wager we will have all of the big 4 prospects on the main roster next year, Pelts, Coronato, Zary and Wolf. Wolf bouncing back and forth.

IMO, if Tree is making moves, he's going after another RFA RHS fw. And then a d prospect or two.

In fact I bet the Flames draft heavy on D in this draft.
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A lot can happen between now and the offseason but I think taking a serious look at trading Lindholm and/or Hanifin should be considered after this season. Does the team add 2 more $7-9M per players that will be spending portionss of those contracts (majority in Lindholm’s case) in their 30’s? Would that package of players be able to return something around Lafreniere or Byfield and give the Flames cap flexibility and youth that could be factors down the road? Allow the team to rebuild and stay competitive?

Again a topic for the summer but one I have thought might make more sense if they trade instead of extend those players even though they are 2 crucial core players.
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The Coronato fretting, while somewhat warranted should be disapating with every game Pelletier plays. Especially considering that Coronato is a higher tier prospect and at a position of ....let's throw some emphasis on this...a dire need (RHS RW/C).

I've been more than impressed with Pelletiers usage and his ability to fit in. I have little doubt that Coronato can do it better and sooner.

Next season can't come soon enough because if the Flames play this right, Coronato will join for the final push this year, and then next year we have a whole platoon of youth coming in adding some of that hutzpah a lot of us would like to see with an injection of youth.

I'd wager we will have all of the big 4 prospects on the main roster next year, Pelts, Coronato, Zary and Wolf. Wolf bouncing back and forth.

IMO, if Tree is making moves, he's going after another RFA RHS fw. And then a d prospect or two.

In fact I bet the Flames draft heavy on D in this draft.
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A lot can happen between now and the offseason but I think taking a serious look at trading Lindholm and/or Hanifin should be considered after this season. Does the team add 2 more $7-9M per players that will be spending portionss of those contracts (majority in Lindholm’s case) in their 30’s? Would that package of players be able to return something around Lafreniere or Byfield and give the Flames cap flexibility and youth that could be factors down the road? Allow the team to rebuild and stay competitive?

Again a topic for the summer but one I have thought might make more sense if they trade instead of extend those players even though they are 2 crucial core players.
If Hanifin isn’t interested is extending, wonder if a Hanifin for Konecny deal makes sense in the offseason.
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A lot can happen between now and the offseason but I think taking a serious look at trading Lindholm and/or Hanifin should be considered after this season. Does the team add 2 more $7-9M per players that will be spending portionss of those contracts (majority in Lindholm’s case) in their 30’s? Would that package of players be able to return something around Lafreniere or Byfield and give the Flames cap flexibility and youth that could be factors down the road? Allow the team to rebuild and stay competitive?

Again a topic for the summer but one I have thought might make more sense if they trade instead of extend those players even though they are 2 crucial core players.
Maybe if there is a different GM. We have eight plus years of tape on Treliving and we can see he just doesn’t like moving on from players until his hand is forced.
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You don't like him but that doesn't mean there isn't 1 of 31 GMs who won't do that.
Only way Treliving does that is if he keeps listening to his pro scout (Pleau), who was likely the one pushing for acquiring him when he was with Columbus. Fast forward, Flames dodged a bullet, as aside for a hot start last season, Anderson has been a disappointment for the Habs in all other respects. Anderson is a streaky enigma who takes a lot of nights off, and given his injury history and age, is losing value by the day. And we want that four year contract?
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