[Signing] Canucks sign Ferland (4yrs, $3.5 mil AAV)

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Hockey is a business of results, not intentions. It’s $7 million of wasted money that is preventing the team from getting better and he should be held responsible for that, regardless of what the sentiment was at the time. That is the cross one bears as being the GM of a pro sports team.

Future results are always more predictive looking at the process vs the outcomes

I'd rather have a GM who has a good process, vs one who gets lucky on some WAGs, but crushes the team with WAG mistakes

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by d_phaneuf

I dont blame him for those though

Both were widely praised at the time, and it's not like something has come out post signing the flames should have saw

Sometimes things just dont work out, even with the best intentions

Yeah, and if he doesn't make those moves, think about the complaining that he didn't try to improve the team enough.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

So that's Myers and Ferland who are available to be selected in the expansion draft. I doubt Myers would be, because that contract is bad, but if Ferland does manage to stay healthy, this might end up being a good pickup for Seattle.

Also, just checked - the Canucks have $6.8M in cap space, and two RFAs (Boeser and Goldobin). They also have too many bodies on NHL deals.

Do you mean just 1 way deals or the contract limit?

I saw last week they were at only 45 contracts

Lots of people expect erikson to start the year in utica, gaudette might as well too since he has a 2 way deal on his elc

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by troutman

That Ferkland, or whatever his name is, Bieksa said

Ever since he said that, I've only referred to him the way Don Cherry always did; Bieska. He deserves nothing more

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Yeah, and if he doesn't make those moves, think about the complaining that he didn't try to improve the team enough.

At the time of the deal, if Neal signed that to go to Vancouver or something I would have been pretty annoyed that the Flames weren't in on him.

[Shazam]

Good for him. Makes no difference, the Canucks are still going to suck hard.

[442scotty]

Good on Ferly! Hope he does well and makes Treliving regret not signing him!

[VilleN]

What if Ferland’s play falls off a cliff like Brouwer and Neal? Then it is a great move by Tre not to have signed him. Yet, if he produces it was a bad move by Tre.

If Neal returns to form this season, suddenly a bad move is now a good move and Tre is smart and a good GM again.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

He doesn’t deserve an unwavering pass for that. Neal and Brouwer ended up being significant screw ups that are hamstringing the team now, and he should be held accountable for that.

Winning the division gets erased by how hard the Flames got exposed in the playoffs. There are some very troubling holes on this team and I don’t expect them to finish that high next year, now that the book is out and other teams around them have gotten better. Treliving is unable to address those holes effectively in part because of his past mistakes.

If this ends up being another mediocre season and early summer for the Flames I think it’s fair to question the lack of activity and inability to close out moves, and perhaps call into question the direction this team has taken. Mediocrity should never be acceptable or above reproach.

He also doesn't deserve to continuously have his nose rubbed into it at every available opportunity.

As for the "very troubling holes" on the roster and the "book being out" on the Flames this year, I remain thoroughly unconvinced. Five playoff games is simply too small of a window from which to glean much useful information, and even then, I continue to maintain that the problems in the Colorado series were not intrinsic, and most likely correctable with time and experience.

The Flames should be a threat to win the Pacific Division this year like last year, and they are almost certain to be in one of the three Division playoff spots since the teams that matter most have actually NOT gotten any better. I don't see that as a step back at all.

[Lil Pedro]

I fully expect Ferland to be lights out for the first 2 months of the season, and then his game fall off a cliff/be hurt for the remainder of the season.

Glad we didn't bring him back

[Electricprez]

What I wouldn't give for the Flames to pull some voodoo and snatch up Boeser out of this.
Pipe dream, but still.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by AC

I guess?

202 hits last year, 6-0 fight record. His consistency is obviously the knock on his game, but he doesn't disappear physically when his scoring dries up, despite what people like to suggest.

And consistency aside, he's still a solid 40 point winger that can play either side, and on top of that his AAV is right in line with his production.

I easily do this deal if I'm Calgary. Dissapointing

[Barca]

I wonder if Bennett's agent is rubbing his hands with this signing.

the division has Ferland, Miller, Roussel, Kassian, Lucic, Khaira, Reaves etc.

[AC]

Originally Posted by Barca

I wonder if Bennett's agent is rubbing his hands with this signing.

the division has Ferland, Miller, Roussel, Kassian, Lucic, Khaira, Reaves etc.

Miller? Are you suggesting he's supposed to be intimidating?

Edit: He's actually fought more than I would have guessed.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Barca

I wonder if Bennett's agent is rubbing his hands with this signing.

the division has Ferland, Miller, Roussel, Kassian, Lucic, Khaira, Reaves etc.

I'll play Alex: Name a group of essentially uninteresting players?

[bc-chris]

hey AC


your video is being used in a story by a local news webpage here in kelowna...


https://www.kelownanow.com/watercool...a_4_year_deal/

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Electricprez

What I wouldn't give for the Flames to pull some voodoo and snatch up Boeser out of this.
Pipe dream, but still.

There is zero connection between the Ferland signing and any risk of losing Boesser.

It would be like a Canucks fan saying "Gee, Calgary is going to be over the cap, I'd sure like to be able to get Tkachuk out of this".

Calgary is currently in bigger cap trouble than Vancouver. And Calgary's will be solved easily enough.

[Barca]

apparently Ferland's mom is a huge Canuck fan? lol

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by bc-chris

hey AC


your video is being used in a story by a local news webpage here in kelowna...


https://www.kelownanow.com/watercool...a_4_year_deal/

That’s my all time favourite AC video.

[AC]

Originally Posted by Barca

apparently Ferland's mom is a huge Canuck fan? lol

Remember the playoffs? They kept mentioning she didn't want him hitting the Sedins.