North Division - Pest Power Rankings

[---Hatrick---]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Tkachuk was super agitating during the play-offs. I mean, mostly you guys because he played so poorly, but the thread said nothing about on the ice, right?

Pretty happy to have the Canucks at the bottom of the list. 2011 was a long time ago.

You’re happy that your team is soft as puppy s***?

[FlamesLitSquad]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

This one is low, even for you. I told you about the crying in confidence.



Because sometimes it's nice to have a team that has a bunch of wholesome, stand up guys that you don't have to worry about what stupid thing they do next. I have no issues with current team toughness. Watching Myers try and kill a man in the minnesota series gave me the warm fuzzies without the cringies, and that was nice. Also the Petey reverse hit on that Wild ass hat trying to run around on him.

To be honest I am okay with it. I want to hate VAN but they do seem pretty likeable - I don't know if I could handle a year with this many games against rivals if I hated VAN about as much as the Oilers.

[troutman]

I didn't know Weber is considered a pest?

[FlamesLitSquad]

Originally Posted by troutman

I didn't know Weber is considered a pest?

Yeah - maybe pest isn't the right word but he has toughness and snarl - a different thing people don't like playing against.

[Yrebmi]

Originally Posted by ---Hatrick---

Well he hasn’t licked anyone yet... but at this stage, I think so

Can you even imagine the fallout if a hockey player licked an opponent right now?

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by ---Hatrick---

You’re happy that your team is soft as puppy s***?

Since this isn't the Vancouver is No Good thread I'll defend them a little here. I don't' think they are a soft team. Who are we talking about? Pettersson? He's slight but he's not soft. It reminds me of when people called the Sedins soft? Guys like them don't through their body around but they sure as heck could go to the tough areas to make a play.

So when we say "soft" what are we talking about?

I find this edition of the Canucks hard to dislike. Guys like Hughes, Pettersson, Boeser and Horvat are fun to watch.

[---Hatrick---]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Since this isn't the Vancouver is No Good thread I'll defend them a little here. I don't' think they are a soft team. Who are we talking about? Pettersson? He's slight but he's not soft. It reminds me of when people called the Sedins soft? Guys like them don't through their body around but they sure as heck could go to the tough areas to make a play.

So when we say "soft" what are we talking about?

I find this edition of the Canucks hard to dislike. Guys like Hughes, Pettersson, Boeser and Horvat are fun to watch.

When I say soft, I was referring to a lack of players that will be right in the thick of it when a game gets rough. We’ve seen it happen, even with the Flames in the past. A team would get physical with us and own us after the whistles and we would disappear. These days games don’t get as chippy as often as they used to but I’m glad to know that when it happens, we have guys that won’t shy away from it

[---Hatrick---]

And I agree that the Canucks are hard to dislike these days. I was even routing for them in the playoffs. But that’s just not what this thread is about

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by ---Hatrick---

When I say soft, I was referring to a lack of players that will be right in the thick of it when a game gets rough...

You don't think the Canucks have players that will be "right in tbe thick of it"? Did you watch Pettersson at all in last year's playoffs? Or Bo Horvat?

The Canucks are not a physically intimidating team, but they most definitely are not "soft" by this definition either.

But they are still no good.

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[---Hatrick---]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

You don't think the Canucks have players that will be "right in tbe thick of it"? Did you watch Pettersson at all in last year's playoffs? Or Bo Horvat?

The Canucks are not a physically intimidating team, but they most definitely are not "soft" by this definition either.

But they are still no good.

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Again, we are comparing their guys to the guys of the other teams in the North Division. Petterson and Horvat are guys that are “agitators” or “tough”? I thought that’s what this thread is reffering to. They are soft when you compare them to other teams in the North division. Do you disagree?

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Guys like them don't through their body around but they sure as heck could go to the tough areas to make a play.

The one thing we've seen from Pettesson that we never saw from the Sedin's is that he will throw back. Is Petey ever going to be a rough and tumble guy? No. But he throws the odd hit, he really likes the "reverse hit" and the biggest thing that separates him from the Sedins is he will punch you back. Does he have a lot of punching power? Nah, probably not. But he isn't afraid to get into the muck. He isn't afraid to get into the muck and the thing that I loved is that he didn't wilt when he went in there. Despite getting tossed around a bit in his first year and a bit, despite a couple janky things happening to him, he still drives towards the middle and fights down low and along the boards.

I know it's early, but he really is the single most talented player forward the Canucks have had since Bure and I can talk about him all day in any thread, I don't care what your topic is. And like Bure, yeah you want to protect him, but ####ed if he won't have a go at you too if he feels slighted. As dirty, and dangerous as it was, the mother of all elbows is hard to forget.

[TheScorpion]

Borowiecki is in Nashville.

The Sens have Tkachuk, Haley, Gudbranson, Watson, Paquette, and Coburn—they're right up there.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by ---Hatrick---

. They are soft when you compare them to other teams in the North division. Do you disagree?

I do.

[---Hatrick---]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

I do.

Lol! Of course you do.
Who’s softer?

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by ---Hatrick---

Again, we are comparing their guys to the guys of the other teams in the North Division. Petterson and Horvat are guys that are “agitators” or “tough”? I thought that’s what this thread is reffering to. They are soft when you compare them to other teams in the North division. Do you disagree?

Yes. Mostly because I think "soft" is being used in this thread to disparagingly refer to players who are not big or don't fight. You can call these players "small" or "not belligerent," but a lot of them are most definitely not "soft" for all that they endure.

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[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by ---Hatrick---

When I say soft, I was referring to a lack of players that will be right in the thick of it when a game gets rough. We’ve seen it happen, even with the Flames in the past. A team would get physical with us and own us after the whistles and we would disappear. These days games don’t get as chippy as often as they used to but I’m glad to know that when it happens, we have guys that won’t shy away from it

Is there actually any evidence of that or is it just your perception?

[Blaster86]

Flames.


Canucks top end talent thrived vs physical, strong teams in the play-offs. Gaudreau, Monahan, Lindholm and Tkachuk did their annual disappearing act when the games got tough.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by ---Hatrick---

Again, we are comparing their guys to the guys of the other teams in the North Division. Petterson and Horvat are guys that are “agitators” or “tough”? I thought that’s what this thread is reffering to. They are soft when you compare them to other teams in the North division. Do you disagree?

Hot take: The Flames are softer.

[---Hatrick---]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Hot take: The Flames are softer.

Hot take indeed my friend!

[---Hatrick---]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Flames.


Canucks top end talent thrived vs physical, strong teams in the play-offs. Gaudreau, Monahan, Lindholm and Tkachuk did their annual disappearing act when the games got tough.

Well... I can’t disagree with you about the disappearing act