The Hockey Guy made a video about this earlier today:
Looks like Dube, Kylington or Bennett might have to be claimed in a worst case scenario.
But since Rittich is a UFA after this season, it seems less likely that he'd be claimed.
Only gets worse implies it's already bad.
No doubt his performance will decline, but right now he's been a very consistent two way player and the decline has yet to start.
I get the risk as the deal plays out. But I don't understand the perception from some that it's already a bad deal.
My point is that we have already enjoyed the best years of that contract. In the economics of the time it was a fine deal, but things change over time as well as a players ability.
We are in a position where next year it is likely that the cap goes down, that in combination with Backlunds inevitable decline ( not saying he sucks or sucked or whatever else you are projecting, Backlund up to this point has been a fine 2c) will make that tough money to pay someone, who after next season, should be deployed as a third line center. If the Flames have to lump the bad cap for the last two years on the contract then that is fine, but if they don't via the expansion draft then it is not a negative, and it should help the team readjust their top 6 to compete for more than 1st round exits.
Tanev, probably, based on salary and term vs. value to the team. Next year is huge though. I am not fully on board with Kylington, so I wouldn't be heart broken if he gets picked, unless he shows serious improvement next year.
If all players perform and produce at the same level as last season, there is no way not to protect Dube and Mangiapane. So it will be a toss up to use the last forward protection slot on Backlund or Bennett. Given the age and the amount of money he makes, I will leave Backlund exposed.
For defence, I am actually surprised to find out that Kylington played 48 games last season. Given that, I would leave him exposed and protect Tanev. If Kylington got picked by Seattle, we hope that one of Mackey/Poolman/Yelesin can break into the lineup. You definitely won't use the slot to protect Gio.
Who I really want to Seattle to pick from the Flames - Big Save Dave. Unfortunately there is no room for Rittich at the net here in Calgary, and I think he would do well in a new team.
If I was Seattle, I'd consider Kylington. I think he has potential to be a 2nd pairing D; but hasn't been given enough opportunity to play here to iron out the weaknesses in the defensive side of his game.
The Hockey Guy made a video about this earlier today:
Looks like Dube, Kylington or Bennett might have to be claimed in a worst case scenario.
But since Rittich is a UFA after this season, it seems less likely that he'd be claimed.
I don’t see how Dube is exposed? Almost no chance of that happening.
Hopefully Giordano or Backlund. Two horrible contracts moving forward.
Backlund’s contract seems like fair value... pretty consistent with other contracts for similar players I believe. Only 2 years left on the Gio contract and he’s likely a 2-3 D-man during that time... so really neither contract are that bad. With that said, I’d prefer Seattle to pick one of them because I’d rather get younger than older.
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My point is that we have already enjoyed the best years of that contract. In the economics of the time it was a fine deal, but things change over time as well as a players ability.
I think that's debatable. Backlund was on his way to a career year before the stoppage; I see no reason why he won't be just as good for at least one more season
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We are in a position where next year it is likely that the cap goes down, that in combination with Backlunds inevitable decline ( not saying he sucks or sucked or whatever else you are projecting, Backlund up to this point has been a fine 2c) will make that tough money to pay someone, who after next season, should be deployed as a third line center...
Explain. Why "should" Backlund be playing on the third line in 2021?
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The correct answer is Seattle makes a paper work error and picks a pending UFAs in the AHL. So Robinson, Petrovic, or Dominigue.
Losing Ryan is acceptable but also maybe not too realistic. Yeah Seattle can pick 10 UFAs and Ryan makes sense, being local and centre as the weakest position in the draft, but nothing stops Seattle from picking another player then signing Ryan anyways. Unlike when Vegas picked Engelland the Flames actually have some good depth to choose from.
Realistically it comes down to Gio, Backlund, Bennett, or Kylington. Will need this season to see if veterans regress or youth takes the next step.
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Hopefully Giordano or Backlund. Two horrible contracts moving forward.
Gio is a year removed from a Norris trophy. He had an off year. Most of the team had an off year, but he’s still the best D on the roster, by a lot.
He hasn’t become Jack Johnson.
Backlund has 4 years left on his deal - he was more productive this season than he was last. Maybe his contract will be a problem one day, but let’s see an actual decline first.
Besides, the only centre could we have acquired who’s as good as Backlund, who makes $5.3M, without giving up a 1st + + is Michael McDoesntexist.
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Not sure how much value you want to put on their intangibles, but from a pure hockey ability perspective it's a no-brainer.
I kind of irrationally want both of them to retire Flames, regardless of how poor it would be in terms of asset management.
Long careers on one team are so rare these days. But teams with that sort of continuity earn respect.
As far as I know, I don't think any of the Canadian teams have players that have been with their organization as long as Gio has. Price comes close. Backlund might be next?
The Hockey Guy made a video about this earlier today:
Looks like Dube, Kylington or Bennett might have to be claimed in a worst case scenario.
But since Rittich is a UFA after this season, it seems less likely that he'd be claimed.
there is zero chance Lucic doesn't waive his NMC. he won't be picked by Seattle anyway, so refusing to do so just ####s over his own team.
Gio is a year removed from a Norris trophy. He had an off year. Most of the team had an off year, but he’s still the best D on the roster, by a lot.
He hasn’t become Jack Johnson.
Backlund has 4 years left on his deal - he was more productive this season than he was last. Maybe his contract will be a problem one day, but let’s see an actual decline first.
Besides, the only centre could we have acquired who’s as good as Backlund, who makes $5.3M, without giving up a 1st + + is Michael McDoesntexist.
Sure Gio is a year removed from a Norris. But counting on a 37 year old to rebound to that level at his age is a fool's bet. Last season was a sign of things to come, especially in the playoffs.
I'd be 100% on board with leaving him available to Seattle. I don't think his contract is an albatross quite yet, but this is essentially a get out of free jail card if/when that does happen. It also change the dynamic of the Flames D going forward. With the top pairing of Brodano gone it gives the chance for a new top pairing to emerge.
The flames have a history though of catering to beloved vets so I doubt it happens. But I think it would be a good move.
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