02-11-2015, 11:38 PM
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#1001
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jan 2014
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Am I the only one who finds it obvious 'savemedrzalus' is trolling?
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02-12-2015, 08:45 AM
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#1002
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Shanahan has proposed a scorched Earth plan to MLSE and they approved it.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...ticle22938348/
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Mr. Shanahan and his lieutenants have now finally received a broad mandate from ownership to scorch as much earth as they see fit in order to return the Leafs to contention, according to two sources familiar with that meeting. It will mean a new philosophy on building slowly through the draft and long-term projects, rather than quick fixes via trades for established players. It will mean at least three more years of pain for fans, and as many as five.
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02-12-2015, 08:46 AM
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#1003
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In the Sin Bin
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...ick=sf_globefb
Shanahan uses the Leafs' ineptitude to garner support from MLSE execs to do a "scorched-earth" rebuild.
Author of article notes there will be no quick fixes, then goes on to propose a quick fix: "We'll just draft McDavid, hire Babcock and trade Phaneuf and Kessel".
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02-12-2015, 08:48 AM
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#1004
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
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Reporting for duty.
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02-12-2015, 08:48 AM
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#1005
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
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And as many as five? If it could be much longer. Wasn't this the mandate they gave Burke? He got 5 years too but there was a lot of pressure after the first year
Last edited by Street Pharmacist; 02-12-2015 at 09:36 AM.
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02-12-2015, 09:17 AM
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#1006
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Author of article notes there will be no quick fixes, then goes on to propose a quick fix: "We'll just draft McDavid, hire Babcock and trade Phaneuf and Kessel".
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And that's why any talk from MLSE about a long-term rebuild via draft and development should be taken with a huge grain of salt.
The Toronto fans and media don't have the stomach for it. They may be on board for the first year, but after that the pressure to "accelerate" the rebuild will start to get ugly.
If the Leafs were ever in the position of this year's Flames ( young team where the rebuild isn't complete but they're having an unexpectedly good season ) the Leafs would be selling off picks and prospects to "make a run" right now instead of sticking to the plan.
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02-12-2015, 09:24 AM
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#1007
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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What a bunch of idiots. You've got Phaneuf and Kessel locked up long-term to big dollars in the prime of their careers, pulling the chute now is just a huge waste of everyone's time and money.
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02-12-2015, 04:11 PM
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#1008
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
And as many as five? If it could be much longer. Wasn't this the mandate they gave Burke? He got 5 years too but there was a lot of pressure after the first year
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No. The mandate was to win now
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02-12-2015, 04:14 PM
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#1009
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigTuna
No. The mandate was to win now
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Nope. They expected a rebuild. Burke was impatiernt and decided at some point he could fast track it with thinks like the Kessell trade.
http://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/...the_leafs.html
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02-12-2015, 04:21 PM
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#1010
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
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It says nothing about ownership wanting a full rebuild. The day Burke was hired he said management wanted to win now.
The Kessel trade was his first full season in Toronto
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02-12-2015, 04:29 PM
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#1011
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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I think the Leafs could do a pretty quick rebuild. If they keep pieces like JVR, Kadri, Bernier, Reilly, Gardiner, Nylander and get into the top 5 this coming draft those are nice building blocks. Also if they can get some nice young assets for Kessel and serviceable players for Dion they could compete next year for a playoff spot.
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02-12-2015, 04:35 PM
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#1012
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigTuna
It says nothing about ownership wanting a full rebuild. The day Burke was hired he said management wanted to win now.
The Kessel trade was his first full season in Toronto
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It certainly mentions that Burke was rebuilding...
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02-12-2015, 04:39 PM
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#1013
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Franchise Player
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Remember when David Clarkson was a free agent? A lot of people thinks the Flames should sign him. I am glad they didn't and the Leafs ended up overpaying him. The guy been a healthy scratch for the last few games and just not getting it that in order to be in the lineup, he has to start working hard.
No wonder Toronto is no good.
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02-12-2015, 04:53 PM
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#1014
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
I think the Leafs could do a pretty quick rebuild. If they keep pieces like JVR, Kadri, Bernier, Reilly, Gardiner, Nylander and get into the top 5 this coming draft those are nice building blocks. Also if they can get some nice young assets for Kessel and serviceable players for Dion they could compete next year for a playoff spot.
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Not likely
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02-12-2015, 05:01 PM
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#1015
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Not likely
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They're going to get something nice for Kessel.
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02-12-2015, 05:14 PM
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#1016
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigTuna
They're going to get something nice for Kessel.
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which does not refute my point in the slightest
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02-12-2015, 05:28 PM
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#1017
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigTuna
They're going to get something nice for Kessel.
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They're not going to get any immediate help, and from what I've heard they don't want it. They want to suck and get top draft picks.
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02-12-2015, 06:50 PM
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#1018
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigTuna
It says nothing about ownership wanting a full rebuild. The day Burke was hired he said management wanted to win now.
The Kessel trade was his first full season in Toronto
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Link for the Burke quote?
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02-12-2015, 08:08 PM
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#1020
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vulcan
They're not going to get any immediate help, and from what I've heard they don't want it. They want to suck and get top draft picks.
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It's the smart thing to do. They have 2 players that teams would want but probably don't like the $'s awarded to those players. If doing a real scorched rebuild they can take back crap players with 2-3 years left at term but overpaid. They are going to need players to play while sitting in the bottom of the league for a couple of years. Might as well be the crap players that other teams don't want so they can get better value for Kessel and Dion. If they were trying to compete next year there is no chance they could have gotten good value for those 2 players.
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