NHL.com: Super 16, Expansion-era Centers

[FanIn80]

My all-time favourite player comes in at #11.

8th all-time in career points per game

Spoiler!

Wayne Gretzky 1.92
Mario Lemieux 1.88
Mike Bossy 1.50
Bobby Orr 1.39
Marcel Dionne 1.31
Sidney Crosby 1.28
Peter Stastny 1.27
Peter Forsberg 1.25

4th all-time in career assists per game

Spoiler!

Wayne Gretzky 1.32
Mario Lemieux 1.13
Bobby Orr 0.98
Peter Forsberg 0.88

- Tops among all NHL Centers from 94-99 with 440pts in 344gp
- Gretzky once called him the "most complete player he's ever seen"
- Was not only one of the highest-skilled players to ever play the game, was also one of the toughest.
- Media was billing the biggest story of a potential Colorado/New Jersey matchup in 2001 as "Unstoppable force meets immovable object." It was going to seven games of the the guy no one could stop (Forsberg) vs the guy who could stop anyone (Stevens). Instead, we got treated to Joe Sakic literally destroying Stevens' whole career with one fakeout goal put right between his legs in Game 7.

Also, this:



Oh, I forgot... the whole point of all that was four voters didn't even have him on their list, which is a complete friggin travesty.

https://www.nhl.com/news/super-16-nh...rs/c-316551554

[dissentowner]

Sorry but Peter Forsberg is one of my least liked players ever. He was the original king of the dive. Floppa.

[Coach]

All I care about is that McDavid is let off. Thank god. I'm sick of his pre-mature appointment as the greatest thing to ever touch ice before he does anything more remarkable than skate fast.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Sorry but Peter Forsberg is one of my least liked players ever. He was the original king of the dive. Floppa.

Whoa what? The guy was a wrecking ball.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Whoa what? The guy was a wrecking ball.

He was but he was a classic diver. Like this.

[codynw]

I've never heard of this guy before, but can we talk about how William Douglas ranked Lemieux 3rd, behind Messier? What a clown. And Yzerman is super underrated by everyone. The guy has the most points in a season by someone who isn't Gretzky or Lemieux.

[FanIn80]

What a diver!

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

He was but he was a classic diver. Like this.

To me this is just giving it back to the biggest diving team to ever exist.

[AC]

Forsberg was a beast.

He also dove constantly.

[Strange Brew]

Love these lists. I would have Trottier and Clarke higher. With Francis and Lafontaine lower.

Thornton and Mikita deserve to be here IMO, I suppose at the expense of Perreault and Lafontaine or Malkin.

Jean Ratelle was one of my favorites but probably doesn't make the list deservedly.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by AC

Forsberg was a beast.

He also dove constantly.

Of all the guys I’ve ever wanted to ask to ‘prove it’... I’ve hit the jack pot here.

[CsInMyBlood]

Yeah, if you don't think Forsberg was a diver you didn't actually watch him play.

Guy would drive me nuts. Couldn't fully appreciate him because of it.

[SeanCharles]

Before the Flames were good enough to make the playoffs the team I rooted for come spring was the Avalanche.

I was a huge Joe Sakic fan and also really liked Roy. Forsberg was a beauty and up there as one of my all-time favs as well.

I loved that era of hockey as the battles with Detroit and to a lesser extent Dallas were epic.

The 3 of them dominated the West for many years. Meanwhile NJ owned the east (hated their garbage play style).

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by SeanCharles

Before the Flames were good enough to make the playoffs the team I rooted for come spring was the Avalanche.

I was a huge Joe Sakic fan and also really liked Roy. Forsberg was a beauty and up there as one of my all-time favs as well.

I loved that era of hockey as the battles with Detroit and to a lesser extent Dallas were epic.

The 3 of them dominated the West for many years. Meanwhile NJ owned the east (hated their garbage play style).

I was always on the Detroit side of that battle. Loved Yzerman.

Forsberg would absolutely destroy us Flames. There was no way to contain him. In my opinion he’s one of the best 10 forwards to ever play.

[FanIn80]

I admit I may be blind to the diving thing, because he's quite literally my favourite player by far, but I also have two points to add to the convo:

1) All superstars (well ok may be most) will go down to draw a penalty, when I think of a "diver" I think of a Matt Cooke who would literally skate into someone and then flop around to get a call. I don't think of a superstar with the puck getting hacked and slashed and crosschecked going down to draw a penalty. Are they both "diving?" Yes? Is there a clear difference?" To me, also yes.

2) Forsberg's ankle problems have been well documented, and it didn't take long to figure out that the only way to stop Forsberg to go for his ankles. A lot of the diving examples I've seen have been him going down after taking a slash to the ankle. I'm just saying that a guy who often had to have his skates literally cut off him after a game, because of the swelling in his ankles, would probably feel this slashes a little more than others would.

Here's a great article, if you have 10 minutes.
https://www.denverpost.com/2014/11/1...ame-at-a-cost/

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by SeanCharles

Before the Flames were good enough to make the playoffs the team I rooted for come spring was the Avalanche.

I was a huge Joe Sakic fan and also really liked Roy. Forsberg was a beauty and up there as one of my all-time favs as well.

I loved that era of hockey as the battles with Detroit and to a lesser extent Dallas were epic.

The 3 of them dominated the West for many years. Meanwhile NJ owned the east (hated their garbage play style).

I'm exactly the same. That was such a great team to watch. Also a very familiar team too, since their seasons often ended in massive disappointment.

[OutOfTheCube]

As someone who got in to hockey in the mid-2000's (and had my peak fandom from 2005-2007 or so), my brain always identifies Forsberg as a Flyer. And #### the Flyers.