11-05-2017, 01:14 PM
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#41
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Stockholm
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Anyone familiar with sport bars in Vegas? Would like to see the game tonight but don’t know where.
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11-05-2017, 01:21 PM
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#42
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kbvall
Anyone familiar with sport bars in Vegas? Would like to see the game tonight but don’t know where.
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Just go to the sports book in any casino, they'll have everything you can bet on on big screen TVs.
https://www.vegas.com/gaming/sportsbooks/
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11-05-2017, 01:27 PM
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#43
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by sempuki
Name me a successful organization (this excludes Edmonton) that throws their kids to the wolves?
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Not including top 6 OA picks...which of these teams would you consider "not successful" organizations?
San Jose
- Lebanc (Mangiapane's junior linemate)
- Hertl
- Meier
Tampa Bay
- Vasilvesky
- Sergachev
- Point
- Kucherov
- Johnson
- Palat
Anaheim
- Gibson
- Montour
- Ritchie
- Fowler
- Manson
- Theodore
Pittsburgh
- Murray
- Maatta
- Guentzal
- Sheary
- Rust
- Dumoulin
Chicago
- Hartman
- DeBrincat
- Rutta
- Schmaltz
- Panarin
- Saad
- Shaw
- Teravainen
- Leddy
- How far back do you want me to go? Because pick a year.
St. Louis
- Dunn
- Parayko
- Sundqvist
- Fabbri
Boston
- Pastrnak
- McAvoy
- Bjork
- DeBrusk
- Carlo
- D. Hamilton
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Calgary
- Gaudreau, three years ago, for a different coach
- Ferland, two years ago, for a different coach
And no, Janko/Kulak playing less than Glass/Bart is not valid.
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11-05-2017, 01:35 PM
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#44
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Stockholm
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Originally Posted by Finger Cookin
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Problem is you won’t get any sound. But it will work.
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11-05-2017, 01:37 PM
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#45
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What are we considering throwing to the wolves. A lot of names in the list above had a lot of seasoning in the minors or europe. What’s the definition here?
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11-05-2017, 01:42 PM
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#46
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild GM
What are we considering throwing to the wolves. A lot of names in the list above had a lot of seasoning in the minors or europe. What’s the definition here?
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When you have the likes of Westgarth and Big Ern riding your wings. Or Wideman if you're a dman.
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11-05-2017, 01:43 PM
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#47
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Conquering the world one 7-11 at a time
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Why are so many games on SN360 this year? It was better when they were doing Sportsnet Flames. Even if the production quality sucked, at least you weren't forced to pay for another tier of cable (and all the useless channels that come with it) just to get SN360. No wonder streaming is becoming the way to go.
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11-05-2017, 01:45 PM
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#48
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild GM
What are we considering throwing to the wolves. A lot of names in the list above had a lot of seasoning in the minors or europe. What’s the definition here?
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Based on:
"Pretty status quo for Gully. If facing the choice between a veteran and a youngster, he seems to gravitate towards having the veteran presence on the ice...even when that veteran presence is rubbish."
Being considered as "thrown to the wolves"...
Not Being Healthy Scratched Or Demoted To The Minors For AHL-Caliber Veterans.
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11-05-2017, 01:46 PM
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#49
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Franchise Player
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Devils @ flames 7pm mt snet 360
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Originally Posted by Bingo
I'm disappointed as well, but Glass and Bartkowski have been scratched all week for Jankowski and Kulak, 19 year old Matthew Tkachuk plays on the second line, and the first line is quite young.
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Yeah, but we’re talking bad veterans in place where either equally talented youngsters, or more talented youngsters sit on the pine/don’t play.
Glass/Stajan/Brouwer/Versteeg over Lazar/Hathaway to begin the season.
Bartkowski over Kulak for a good stretch.
Brouwer on the PP over Ferland despite every shred of evidence pointing to Ferly being far, far more effective.
I didn’t mean for my remark to come off as a damning statement on Gully, because at the end of the day we are talking about small roles on the squad (...except in the Brouwer Vs. An effective PP situation). I just look around the league and there are plenty of other teams who put faith in young players for smaller roles.
I think there’s reason to believe Hathaway could actually bring more to the team than Brouwer does as a 4th line winger, just as I believe Kulak and Andersson could bring more to the team as a 5/6 d-man than Bartkowski could.
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11-05-2017, 01:48 PM
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#50
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
Based on:
"Pretty status quo for Gully. If facing the choice between a veteran and a youngster, he seems to gravitate towards having the veteran presence on the ice...even when that veteran presence is rubbish."
Being considered as "thrown to the wolves"...
Not Being Healthy Scratched Or Demoted To The Minors For AHL-Caliber Veterans.
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So an entirely slanted definition built only to support your view? Got it
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11-05-2017, 01:52 PM
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#51
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
Pretty status quo for Gully. If facing the choice between a veteran and a youngster, he seems to gravitate towards having the veteran presence on the ice...even when that veteran presence is rubbish.
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...and that's the news from opposite land for tonight.
Meanwhile in this reality:
Glen Gulutzan has been playing Kulak over Bartkowski ever since Kulak got the call, and Jankowski hasn't sat a game yet. Lazar has more games than Glass (and more TOI/G), and Bennett also hasn't sat a game yet.
I seriously fail to see the problem, and if you really want to see a problem I'm pretty sure you should be pointing fingers at Treliving.
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11-05-2017, 01:53 PM
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#52
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild GM
So an entirely slanted definition built only to support your view? Got it
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I would say that likening any team playing rookies who have earned an opportunity to the pitfalls of the Edmonton Oilers is far more slanted.
It's an arbitrary list. But it does show that, yes, perennially successful teams can play and graduate NHLers. In fact they need to in a cap world to stay competitive. Rasmus Andersson is 21 years old, has a year pro under his belt in NA (alogn with two years pro in Sweden) and by most accounts was superior to Bartkowski in preseason. It's not throwing him to the wolves like the Oilers to play him tonight.
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11-05-2017, 02:18 PM
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#53
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild GM
What are we considering throwing to the wolves. A lot of names in the list above had a lot of seasoning in the minors or europe. What’s the definition here?
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If it fits my view, it counts. If it doesn't, it doesn't.
lol at 'not including top 6 OAs' so that we can shorten the list by not including Monahan, Tkachuk and Bennett.
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11-05-2017, 02:19 PM
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#54
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Franchise Player
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oh, and Jankowski and Kulak don't count either because... reasons?
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11-05-2017, 02:21 PM
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#55
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
I would say that likening any team playing rookies who have earned an opportunity to the pitfalls of the Edmonton Oilers is far more slanted.
It's an arbitrary list. But it does show that, yes, perennially successful teams can play and graduate NHLers. In fact they need to in a cap world to stay competitive. Rasmus Andersson is 21 years old, has a year pro under his belt in NA (alogn with two years pro in Sweden) and by most accounts was superior to Bartkowski in preseason. It's not throwing him to the wolves like the Oilers to play him tonight.
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Everyone on your list likely experienced some kind of seesaw battle with vets before earning their spots. Flames have 5 draft picks in their top 6. Their team has gradually more and more home grown talent every year and there likely will be more by the end of this year than there has been in the last 10. You're overreacting.
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11-05-2017, 02:21 PM
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#56
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
I would say that likening any team playing rookies who have earned an opportunity to the pitfalls of the Edmonton Oilers is far more slanted.
It's an arbitrary list. But it does show that, yes, perennially successful teams can play and graduate NHLers. In fact they need to in a cap world to stay competitive. Rasmus Andersson is 21 years old, has a year pro under his belt in NA (alogn with two years pro in Sweden) and by most accounts was superior to Bartkowski in preseason. It's not throwing him to the wolves like the Oilers to play him tonight.
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I agree that it wouldn't be throwing him to the wolves to play him tonight.
However, I also think it is completely reasonable to have the guy who has been with the team all year play, and have the new guy - I don't know - maybe get a practice or two in before he starts?
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11-05-2017, 02:25 PM
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#57
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Rocky Mt House
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Devils 4, Flames 5 because I am old
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11-05-2017, 02:35 PM
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#58
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Franchise Player
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Centre Ice channels for:
Sunday, November 5
Devils at Flames, 1900h/7:00 pm Mountain
Flames feed in red
Game is on Sportsnet 360 in Canada, therefore it is not on Centre Ice.
The game will also be on Sportsnet West once the Habs-Blackhawks game ends.
USA
Indemand - Game SD1 Game HD1
Directv - 773 SD 773-1 HD
Dish - 575 SD 9543 HD Hopper Channel 475-03
Sirius Radio-- Siri 204 (Internet 924)
XM Radio-- XM 220 (Internet 924)
SXM Radio-- SXM 220 (Internet 924)
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11-05-2017, 02:38 PM
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#59
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Edmonton,AB
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Arghh freaking sn360
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11-05-2017, 02:41 PM
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#60
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Robo
Arghh freaking sn360
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At least Sportsnet West will have it when it joins in progress, probably near the end of the first period.
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