I've mentioned a few times that Ovechkin's patriotism and support of Putin is...a little over-the-top, but this is something else...
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MOSCOW — Alex Ovechkin's new 'social movement' to support President Vladimir Putin received Kremlin backing Friday.
The Washington Capitals captain said Thursday on Instagram he was starting a group called Putin Team to “show everyone a strong and united Russia.” Ovechkin added that he has never hidden his feelings about Putin and has “always supported him openly.”
The Russian presidential election is scheduled for March 18. Putin hasn’t confirmed he will run for a fourth term, but is widely expected to do so.
“We obviously welcome in general Sasha’s desire to express support for our president, especially from abroad,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said, referring to Ovechkin.
Putin is a hockey fan who takes to the ice for annual televised exhibitions games using the branding of the NHL — though in that case it stands for “Night Hockey League.” Putin plays alongside former star players and government officials, and regularly scores several goals, though his opponents seem reluctant to challenge him for the puck.
This will probably be an unpopular opinion but i don't get the outrage. The guy is a proud Russian and I don't buy this narrative that the Russian government is this force of evil and we are a beacon of good. Dude is just pumping the home teams tires
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This will probably be an unpopular opinion but i don't get the outrage. The guy is a proud Russian and I don't buy this narrative that the Russian government is this force of evil and we are a beacon of good. Dude is just pumping the home teams tires
I am far from 'outraged' but this is a big deal. There are people who genuinely believe that Putin rigged the US election for Trump, and Putin has a shadow over him. He is not the nicest person in the world by all accounts.
Its not as though I can blame Ovechkin for being patriotic, its just that his fierce loyalty not just to Russia, but Putin specifically, seems....I just dont know, theres just something off there.
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Yeah, it's best not to overreact. Even if he didn't support him, voicing critique over Putin and/or his policies would likely spell trouble for him and his family back home.
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Yeah, it's best not to overreact. Even if he didn't support him, voicing critique over Putin and/or his policies would likely spell trouble for him and his family back home.
Right...which means his support is effectively the result of blackmail and threats.
That doesnt seem somewhat weird?
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This will probably be an unpopular opinion but i don't get the outrage. The guy is a proud Russian and I don't buy this narrative that the Russian government is this force of evil and we are a beacon of good. Dude is just pumping the home teams tires
Except our Prime Minister doesn't kill political opponents and Journalists while invading sovereign countries.
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This will probably be an unpopular opinion but i don't get the outrage. The guy is a proud Russian and I don't buy this narrative that the Russian government is this force of evil and we are a beacon of good. Dude is just pumping the home teams tires
What "narrative". Are you resentful of facts? Am I allowed to believe that Putin is a psychopathic Machiavellian autocrat and also believe that "we" are not a beacon of good?
Not outraged at Ovechkin but I think he's an idiot and I've lost a lot of respect for him. Dumb political opinions are a good enough reason for me not to cheer for a hockey player. When you make your political support vocal and public, you open yourself up to criticism for your political opinions. Too bad. Ovie otherwise seems to have a big heart. Sad to see him wasting his voice and his energy on supporting Putin.
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I don't agree with Ovechkin. However, I've lost no respect for him. I recognize his difference in opinion, disagree with it, and move on with my life. I think he's an awesome hockey player and I will continue to cheer for him (unless he plays the Flames in which case I hope he sucks).
What "narrative". Are you resentful of facts? Am I allowed to believe that Putin is a psychopathic Machiavellian autocrat and also believe that "we" are not a beacon of good?
Not outraged at Ovechkin but I think he's an idiot and I've lost a lot of respect for him. Dumb political opinions are a good enough reason for me not to cheer for a hockey player. When you make your political support vocal and public, you open yourself up to criticism for your political opinions. Too bad. Ovie otherwise seems to have a big heart. Sad to see him wasting his voice and his energy on supporting Putin.
To be fair though, Ovechkin is a meathead hockey player. I doubt he even has a high school level education. Putin is smart going after these uneducated fools.
and LOL to the Putin is not evil. Harper was 'evil' but he never poisoned opponents or journalists, nor killed his own citizens to start a fake war with Chechnya.
The Russian presidential election is scheduled for March 18. Putin hasn’t confirmed he will run for a fourth term, but is widely expected to do so.
“We obviously welcome in general Sasha’s desire to express support for our president, especially from abroad,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said, referring to Ovechkin.
To be fair though, Ovechkin is a meathead hockey player. I doubt he even has a high school level education. Putin is smart going after these uneducated fools.
An uneducated fool who every single kid in Russia probably looks up to.
I am far from 'outraged' but this is a big deal. There are people who genuinely believe that Putin rigged the US election for Trump, and Putin has a shadow over him. He is not the nicest person in the world by all accounts.
Its not as though I can blame Ovechkin for being patriotic, its just that his fierce loyalty not just to Russia, but Putin specifically, seems....I just dont know, theres just something off there.
Some people don't think America landed on the moon and 9-11 was an inside job, too
All I'm saying is we aren't saints either. If anyone for a second doesn't think politicians in the west do shady things, they're extremely naive.
Also the "invading sovereign nations" high ground doesn't work when our biggest ally is the United States of America either(not that you said it, just a sentiment echoed by other posters)
I'm sure if there was an American player in the khl posting on twitter about his love of Hillary Clinton during the us elections, he wouldn't get the best press over there either
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This will probably be an unpopular opinion but i don't get the outrage. The guy is a proud Russian and I don't buy this narrative that the Russian government is this force of evil and we are a beacon of good. Dude is just pumping the home teams tires
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Kinda dumb, but not a surprise. Liberal democracy just isn't valued by most Russians. They're happy enough to have a murderous autocrat run their country so long as the economy isn't too terrible and Russia looks strong on the global stage. If some journalists and political dissidents need to get shot in the head and thrown in the river, pfft, they shouldn't have been dissing the ruler of Mother Russia in the first place.
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Some people don't think America landed on the moon and 9-11 was an inside job, too
All I'm saying is we aren't saints either. If anyone for a second doesn't think politicians in the west do shady things, they're extremely naive.
Also the "invading sovereign nations" high ground doesn't work when our biggest ally is the United States of America either(not that you said it, just a sentiment echoed by other posters)
I'm sure if there was an American player in the khl posting on twitter about his love of Hillary Clinton during the us elections, he wouldn't get the best press over there either
Ah so because we are allies with the United States it's no problem that Putin invaded Ukraine. How about his jailing of political opponents and human rights activists? How about his active oppression on Gays in Russia. He's a dictator and anyone who supports him deserves criticism.
Ah so because we are allies with the United States it's no problem that Putin invaded Ukraine. How about his jailing of political opponents and human rights activists? How about his active oppression on Gays in Russia. He's a dictator and anyone who supports him deserves criticism.
It means your moral high ground is more like a level playing field is all
Anyways, I'm not here to argue politics on the foi board, sorry for the derail
Kremlin Praises Ovechkin's Support for Putin
