11-02-2017, 12:42 PM
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In Your MCP
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Watching Hot Dog Hans
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What a time to be a GM when Mad Mike was in New York.
Imagine trading garbage for Luongo, Bertuzzi, McCabe, Chara, Jokinen or Berard. That right there is 2 top line forwards, 3 top line Dmen and an all star goalie.
Here's a fun exercise; who would we trade in '99 to get those guys?
Berard for Giguere
McCabe/Bertuzzi for Jeff Shantz
Chara Muckault and a 1st (Spezza) for ???? (This one is hard to compare. Yashin was UNBELIEVABLY bad, so maybe our top pick from one of the years prior....Tkaczuk and Fata maybe?)
Jokinen and Luongo for Savard and a 30pt LW (Nazarov)?
I know we like to make fun of edmonton and CHiarelli, but NO ONE comes close to Milbury for just straight up horrific trades. Some of these are SO bad I swear he was getting paid by the other team to complete them.
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11-02-2017, 12:52 PM
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#23
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cKy
Interesting thought. Would you rather of had Kipper or Luongo?
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Interesting thought, but easy to answer based on 2004 - I don't think Luongo would've been able to keep the puck out against all the teams the Flames went through to get to the Finals. I also don't think Luongo would've been a Vezina winner like what Kipper did in 2006/2007. Luongo was a good goalie and probably still is, but Kipper was amazing for the Flames. Kipper - forever a Flames!
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11-02-2017, 12:52 PM
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#24
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Franchise Player
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I'm just gonna assume in this alternate reality, the Flames have Luongo and Marc Edouard Vlasic
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11-02-2017, 01:25 PM
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#25
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geeoff
I'm just gonna assume in this alternate reality, the Flames have Luongo and Marc Edouard Vlasic
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I don't think we draft Vlasic at #35 after drafting Matt Pelech at #25.
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11-02-2017, 01:33 PM
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#26
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First Line Centre
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Actually instead of drafting Trevor Kidd, we would've draft Martin Brodeur, and he will may wearing a Flames jersey on the Enterprise Car Rental commercial....
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11-02-2017, 01:38 PM
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#27
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aka Spike
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: The Darkest Corners of My Mind
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lazypucker
Actually instead of drafting Trevor Kidd, we would've draft Martin Brodeur, and he will may wearing a Flames jersey on the Enterprise Car Rental commercial....
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I don't think the Flames played the style the Devils did that allowed him to succeed.
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11-02-2017, 02:18 PM
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#28
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by albertGQ
I don't think we draft Vlasic at #35 after drafting Matt Pelech at #25.
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That goes to show that drafting based on need is stupid, since Pelech is a scrub and Vlasic is a top pairing defenseman.
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11-02-2017, 02:23 PM
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#29
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bourque's Twin
Luongo was destined for Vancouver so he could choke in the playoffs and then be traded along with Schenider to ruin their goaltending situation for years to come.
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A bit off topic but aren't the Canucks still paying for part of Luongo's salary?
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11-02-2017, 02:32 PM
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#30
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lazypucker
That is actually a toss up. Both are/were franchise-type goalies, but neither can win Game 7 in the Finals (I know there were many factors, but still). And both were sort of wasted in middling teams after the cup final appearances.
So it is a tough choice.
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correct me if I am wrong, but did each not play one game 7 in a SCF?
seems pretty cruel to make comments on their careers based on one game.
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11-02-2017, 02:42 PM
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#31
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Northendzone
correct me if I am wrong, but did each not play one game 7 in a SCF?
seems pretty cruel to make comments on their careers based on one game.
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11-02-2017, 02:44 PM
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#32
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Hes a Pro Athlete, its literally part of his job description.
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Doesn't matter. People who have body issues and/or have been fat shamed are indirectly affected.
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11-02-2017, 02:57 PM
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#33
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Hes a Pro Athlete, its literally part of his job description.
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If your a fat hockey player you should feel shame
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11-02-2017, 03:02 PM
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#34
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by northcrunk
If your a fat hockey player you should feel shame
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11-02-2017, 03:06 PM
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#35
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: the dark side of Sesame Street
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Quote:
Originally Posted by northcrunk
If your a fat hockey player you should feel shame
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Gump Worsley made it work.
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11-02-2017, 03:08 PM
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#36
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buff
Doesn't matter. People who have body issues and/or have been fat shamed are indirectly affected.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by northcrunk
If your a fat hockey player you should feel shame
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I dont know what to say...I dont mean to fat-shame anyone.
Craig Button being sorry he didnt trade him for Luongo? He should be sorry he didnt trade him for a steak dinner and an assortment of gently used pucks.
And, Buff, I apologize, I mean no disrespect, it wasnt even really about his weight, he was just genuinely not very good.
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11-02-2017, 03:17 PM
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#37
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Franchise Player
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I just looked it up and Derek Morris played over 1100 NHL games. Wow.
For all the grief he sometimes gets, he carved out a pretty good career.
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11-02-2017, 03:29 PM
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#38
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Calgary
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He didn't mention anything about the Savard trade did he? because, if he's going down that road, there are much bigger decisions he should be reflecting on.
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11-02-2017, 03:30 PM
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#39
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
I dont know what to say...I dont mean to fat-shame anyone.
Craig Button being sorry he didnt trade him for Luongo? He should be sorry he didnt trade him for a steak dinner and an assortment of gently used pucks.
And, Buff, I apologize, I mean no disrespect, it wasnt even really about his weight, he was just genuinely not very good.
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One time I made a comment on Facebook about how one of the benefits of being fat is that skinny people will never know the joy of eating an entire bag of potato chips in one sitting. I got accused of fat shaming, despite the fact that a: I am fat and b: I literally had just eaten an entire bag of chips in one sitting.
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11-02-2017, 03:35 PM
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#40
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CMPunk
I don't think the Flames played the style the Devils did that allowed him to succeed.
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While that may be true, I don't think the Flames played the style that allowed Kidd to succeed either.
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