10-31-2017, 12:26 PM
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#141
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Uranus
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
Looking at the Coyotes' record this season, it's pretty clear Smith was the reason they weren't Colorado-bad last season.
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Sure, but it's not like this level of play is sustainable considering how much rubber he is facing and career numbers to date. Let's just hope the Flames get it together sooner than later so they can cover the gap that will inevitably come as Smith's play levels out somewhat or god forbid he is injured.
The positive is that the Flames have an everyday starter that should give them a chance to win every game he plays, even if he regresses somewhat.
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10-31-2017, 01:52 PM
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#142
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Originally Posted by DazzlinDino
In some ways I think it has been good for the team that Smith can handle high shot counts. It gets him in a grove and he doesn't seem to mind the extra work. It has been extra refreshing not seeing a bad goal go in just the team starts to gain momentum. Very deflating whenever Elliot would allow an unexpected goal at the worst of times.
BT said they did a lot of research before they brought Smith in, still a lot of people didn't want to wait until we actually saw him play. Now if we can just get the bottom 2 lines working we might start to get some wins in the bank.
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To be fair, Treliving track record when acquiring older guys has been rather hit and miss, so scepticism was rather natural. Smiths poor showing during the preseason didn't help with the low expectations.
It's always nice to be positively surprised 
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10-31-2017, 02:43 PM
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#143
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus
Sure, but it's not like this level of play is sustainable considering how much rubber he is facing and career numbers to date. Let's just hope the Flames get it together sooner than later so they can cover the gap that will inevitably come as Smith's play levels out somewhat or god forbid he is injured...
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They have already done so. After the first five games of the season the Flames were dead last in the league by a wide margin in SA/G, and they have moved up a full twelve places since then. From games #6–12 they have been averaging 29.7 SA/G, which is top-five in the NHL.
This is no longer an issue.
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10-31-2017, 03:28 PM
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#144
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
They have already done so. After the first five games of the season the Flames were dead last in the league by a wide margin in SA/G, and they have moved up a full twelve places since then. From games #6–12 they have been averaging 29.7 SA/G, which is top-five in the NHL.
This is no longer an issue.
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Yeah, last game I thought Smith made one ten bell save, a handful of really good ones and the rest were ordinary (but well handled). That's not unreasonable for a number one. The other team's gonna get a couple chances even in your best game (which that may have been this season).
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10-31-2017, 03:41 PM
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#145
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
They have already done so. After the first five games of the season the Flames were dead last in the league by a wide margin in SA/G, and they have moved up a full twelve places since then. From games #6–12 they have been averaging 29.7 SA/G, which is top-five in the NHL.
This is no longer an issue.
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Interesting.
Part of the problem for me is the added shots from the way they record them this year. 30 shots feels like a bad game to me, when really that number is on average 25 in previous year summaries.
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10-31-2017, 03:50 PM
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#146
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Bingo
Interesting.
Part of the problem for me is the added shots from the way they record them this year. 30 shots feels like a bad game to me, when really that number is on average 25 in previous year summaries.
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Bingo, what has changed with regard to counting shots on goal this season?
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10-31-2017, 03:55 PM
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#147
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
The other team's gonna get a couple chances even in your best game (which that may have been this season).
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So much this.
Sometimes I feel like people forget we're mostly playing against excellent teams.
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10-31-2017, 04:18 PM
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#148
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by Rick M.
Bingo, what has changed with regard to counting shots on goal this season?
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Bingo can probably provide a better answer to this question, but from what I recall reading in the first week of the season, virtually every touch by a goalie now counts as a SoG, whereas in previous years "shots" were distinguished from incidental stuff like puck clears that end up on goal. Of course, Edmonton also counts "shots between periods for the Oilers" in addition to these.
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11-02-2017, 04:43 PM
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#149
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#1 Goaltender
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It’s interesting that both Elliott and Johnson have below .900 save percentages this season.
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11-02-2017, 04:59 PM
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#150
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by Rick M.
It’s interesting that both Elliott and Johnson have below .900 save percentages this season.
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I don't know if that is so much "interesting" as it was "expected."
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11-02-2017, 07:30 PM
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#151
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Pigeon Lake
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Smith has to be the Trade of the year so far. What a great pick up by Tre.
Last edited by IGGYFORMVP; 11-02-2017 at 07:34 PM.
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11-02-2017, 07:31 PM
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#152
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Powerplay Quarterback
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We would honestly be right there with Edmonton if we didnt have Smith. Breath of fresh air having a good goalie. That said team needs to be much better
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11-02-2017, 07:44 PM
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#153
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by flamesforcup
We would honestly be right there with Edmonton if we didnt have Smith.
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On the other hand, Edmonton would be right there with Arizona if they didn't have Talbot.
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That said team needs to be much better
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Yeah, and that sad team needs to be much better, too. 
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11-02-2017, 08:10 PM
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#154
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jun 2016
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Matta just let Tkachuk shove Jarry WTH? I'll take it
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11-03-2017, 12:57 AM
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#155
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Franchise Player
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Smith has given the rest of the Flames time to figure things out and get it together. In years past, it would be a big hole to dig out of once the rest of the team started playing well and then the entire season is an uphill climb.
For now it looks like a fantastic trade by BT for the Flames to take the next step forward.
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11-30-2017, 04:52 PM
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#156
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First Line Centre
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Kristen Odland article on Smith's playoff heroics a few years ago, just because it's his first time playing the Yotes since the trade. Man I hope he does well for us this year come playoff time too, I remember his performance that year really well:
http://calgaryherald.com/sports/hock...9-558306b142d8
Last edited by Jetfire; 11-30-2017 at 05:25 PM.
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11-30-2017, 05:05 PM
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#157
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Rick M.
It’s interesting that both Elliott and Johnson have below .900 save percentages this season.
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Clearly, GG's system was inflating their stats.
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11-30-2017, 05:57 PM
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#158
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Franchise Player
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One thing I've enjoyed with Smith playing so well so far as a Flame, is not having to listen to people constantly whine in every thread about Jordan Sigalet anymore.
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11-30-2017, 06:22 PM
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#159
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
One thing I've enjoyed with Smith playing so well so far as a Flame, is not having to listen to people constantly whine in every thread about Jordan Sigalet anymore.
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That's for sure. I can see where the complaining came from though, seeing both Hiller and Elliott's productions fall off the face of the earth so quickly, Sigalet was one of the easy choices some people looked at whether deserved or not... "Oh well this must be the goalie coach's fault!" when it was really just both goalies careers tailing off and us picking really bad or even perhaps unlucky times to acquire each of them in hindsight.
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12-14-2017, 11:18 PM
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#160
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First Line Centre
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Some updated Mike Smith numbers, because why not.
Season SV% .918 (11th)
First 14 GP SV% .923 (8th)
Second 14 GP SV% .912 (19th)
Season 5v5 SV% .928 (11th)
First 14 GP 5v5 SV% .938 (5th)
Second 14 GP 5v5 SV% .918 (22nd)
Since the last post in this thread, six games ago, Smith is sitting at .888 all situations and .885 5v5.
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