[PGT] Flames get a point but lose again - Page 8 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

dino7c · 03-08-2021, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CGY12

And he is still miles better than anything we have upfront. I don't care about this season either, they have more work to do in the offseason to change the direction of the team, even if Eichel came on board prior to the trade deadline.

Bit out of context...I wasn't saying Monahan was better just than Eichel just that he has also been a big time non-factor this year so maybe they bite on a 2 for 1 with a pick type offer. People act like our players are untradeable since they are struggling...look around the league they aren't alone.

Buffalo supposedly has multiple players better than anyone we have yet...7 losses in a row and like 6 goals scored.

DeluxeMoustache · 03-08-2021, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

Markstrom has been a star for the team this season. No doubting that. I'm a bit concerned that he doesn't seem like he's at the same level as before the injury though. Hopefully he gets back to the super steady play he had to start the season as the team's hero.

There is negligible difference between the stats of Markstrom the star in whom we have confidence and Rittich of whom we are now terrified.

Just saying

DeluxeMoustache · 03-08-2021, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dion

I have a feeling this was the last game for Huska as a head coach of the Flames.

*chuckle*

He did as much as he could, balancing the excitement of new first time coach and knowing it’s 2 games of dead man walking.

Got more effort on the whole than the last guy

dino7c · 03-08-2021, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

There is negligible difference between the stats of Markstrom the star in whom we have confidence and Rittich of whom we are now terrified.

Just saying

Markstrom has stolen 5+ games
Rittich has stolen 1

honestly they have both been good overall

N-E-B · 03-08-2021, 12:38 AM

I don’t know why people think Tkachuk is going to command $9M on his next deal. IMO he’ll either be the exact same or a couple hundred thousand more. He won’t be anywhere near $9M.

He might ask for that, but he’s not getting that.

DeluxeMoustache · 03-08-2021, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dino7c

Markstrom has stolen 5+ games
Rittich has stolen 1

Valimaki saved his ass tonight

I agree with you, they have both been good overall

dino7c · 03-08-2021, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Yeah you tell yourself that

Valimaki saved his ass tonight

What does that have to do with stolen games? are you suggesting Rittich has never coughed up the puck?

We can go through them if you want...Markstrom stole nearly every win in the early season its not even debatable

DeluxeMoustache · 03-08-2021, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N-E-B

I don’t know why people think Tkachuk is going to command $9M on his next deal. IMO he’ll either be the exact same or a couple hundred thousand more. He won’t be anywhere near $9M.

He might ask for that, but he’s not getting that.

It’s his qualifying offer based on his contract structure

DeluxeMoustache · 03-08-2021, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dino7c

What does that have to do with stolen games? are you suggesting Rittich has never coughed up the puck?

We can go through them if you want...Markstrom stole nearly every win in the early season its not even debatable

Hey, we agree, both goalies are pretty good

Their stats are very near identical

A cough up in a blowout here and there doesn’t matter. Run support helps.

I do like the tandem a lot

But Markstrom was just ok tonight on the whole, despite a couple of nice saves.

Like any of my rounds of golf. I can find something to talk about

btimbit · 03-08-2021, 01:00 AM

Happy to get a point after that effort

CGY12 · 03-08-2021, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dino7c

Bit out of context...I wasn't saying Monahan was better just than Eichel just that he has also been a big time non-factor this year so maybe they bite on a 2 for 1 with a pick type offer. People act like our players are untradeable since they are struggling...look around the league they aren't alone.

Buffalo supposedly has multiple players better than anyone we have yet...7 losses in a row and like 6 goals scored.

I know you aren't saying he is better than Eichel, but nobody is going to balk on trading for Eichel because of his stats this year. Sure he is struggling to put up points but if you watch Buffalo, like I do, you see when he is on the ice he is still a major threat and has the skill set you want from a #1 C.

Nobody is saying they are "untradable", not sure where you are getting that from, but we may not have the desirable assets for Buffalo to consider trading him to us. I think the "multiple players better than anyone we have" is a exaggeration on you're part. The threads I've seen only mention Eichel as the desirable trade piece people want.

No management team just looks at stats and determines the value of a player solely based on that. It sucks but the stock of our core is slowly decreasing. Interestingly enough BT has been rumoured to be holding onto Bennett because he isn't getting what he wants in a deal, referencing Bennett's playoff performance as his true value over his reg season performance. For guys like Gaudreau, Monahan, Tkachuk, he probably has to do the opposite.

Cali Panthers Fan · 03-08-2021, 05:03 AM

I'm not going to say much about that game because it's already been said.

However, I continue to be impressed by Noah Hanifin this year. He's become more solid defensively (having Tanev as a partner helps) but he's also becoming more aggressive offensively. Now that is starting to pay off with a couple goals.

I think we're beginning to see him emerge into a true #1 defenseman (or top pairing at least). That's comforting to see.

Rick M. · 03-08-2021, 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dino7c

Tkachuk was wide open for a break away in OT but Backlund passed it back for some reason

Because Tkachuk can’t skate?

Rick M. · 03-08-2021, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnipeShow

Really surprising to see dallas so poor this year.

Sent from my GM1917 using Tapatalk

The Flames broke them last season.

SebC · 03-08-2021, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N-E-B

Lmao give me a break dude. This has to be the worst take of the year by a country mile.

Jacob Markstrom is the only reason we got a point tonight and is the only reason we have more than 5 wins all year. Truly just an absurdly awful take. Like, mind blowingly bad.

Hey, my sig quote is relevant again! The first goal was deflected, but Markstrom should have had it - and his body language shows he knew it. He almost got the second - close enough that he probably could've had it if we're not in a deterministic universe. He makes either of those saves, as well as the ones he did, and we win. He makes one more save in the shootout, we win. Goalies are expected to make a certain number of saves on breakaways, expected to make a certain number saves on 2-on-0s, expected to make a certain number of saves on deflections. It would take an exceptional set of circumstances for an 0.864 SV% to be earning a point more than it is losing one. This game wasn't it.

Domoic · 03-08-2021, 06:21 AM

Just finished a 14 game stretch where some of us on CP speculated (me included) that the team could go 10-4-0 given the multitude of games vs. Sens/Nucks/Oil.

Instead we went 5-7-2.

Really did sink the season.

Erick Estrada · 03-08-2021, 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N-E-B

I don’t know why people think Tkachuk is going to command $9M on his next deal. IMO he’ll either be the exact same or a couple hundred thousand more. He won’t be anywhere near $9M.

He might ask for that, but he’s not getting that.

He's going to get just that next season which means a difficult decision will have to be made as he's not a $9 million player. It's almost sickening to think this team has $21 million cap space tied up in Tkachuk, Backlund, and Monnahan next season as they have been been invisible most of the season. Hopefully Sutter can push the right buttons but I really think the team should consider shopping Tkachuk in the offseason. Watching Backlund and Tkachuk emulate Keystone Cops in overtime was a snapshot of their season to date.

flambers · 03-08-2021, 06:31 AM

Yikes that was a crap game....

It will be interesting if Sutter can turn this team around...

Geeoff · 03-08-2021, 06:32 AM

Ok. New coach boost starts.... now

kyuss275 · 03-08-2021, 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

He's going to get just that next season which means a difficult decision will have to be made as he's not a $9 million player. It's almost sickening to think this team has $21 million cap space tied up in Tkachuk, Backlund, and Monnahan next season as they have been been invisible most of the season. Hopefully Sutter can push the right buttons but I really think the team should consider shopping Tkachuk in the offseason. Watching Backlund and Tkachuk emulate Keystone Cops in overtime was a snapshot of their season to date.

I have no doubts that Tkachuk will bounce back. Think he will thrive with Sutter. Backlund is Backlund . He does this every year where he plays lousy for a long stretch , then plays like a bonifide 2nd line center for stretches . The player that I hope Sutter can make take next step is Monahan . That said I dont think it will happen . I just don’t see it in him . I highly doubt he is around next season. Don’t get me wrong I have no problem if any of the 3 are shipped out for the right price.