The whole cinematic universe thing has made it almost impossible for a movie like "The Wolverine" to be anything but casual viewing.
As a movie, its really no worse than a few of the films in the MCU. But because it stands alone as just a movie about Wolverine. It's doomed to be received as at best, average.
For the record, I enjoyed it. Until the weird ending.
Not entirely sure I agree. Ant-Man was pretty much a stand alone film and a lot more engaging than the Wolverine. Yes, Ant-Man had Falcon and other MCU references, but it wasn't really intertwined into the larger events of the MCU.
Guardians, similarly had bigger MCU tie ins, but would have been just as good without those tie ins.
As for The Wolverine, quite frankly I don't remember much about it at all. Hugh Jackman goes to Asia...some stuff happens. Will I bother to rewatch...maybe?
I have no urge at all to watch The Wolverine. After Origins, I figured that it would be trash. First Class, X 1&2 and Days Of Future's Past are the only X-Men movies I consider cannon.
I have no urge at all to watch The Wolverine. After Origins, I figured that it would be trash. First Class, X 1&2 and Days Of Future's Past are the only X-Men movies I consider cannon.
I agree more or less with MMF, and I remember a time back when X-Men originally came out that I was pretty excited for these (any of them) comic book movies. And I think actually I still am, Apocalypse looks sweet and let's be honest, would still hit the hurdle for something you're going to watch if you've cared enough to click on this thread.
They can make X-Men movies from here to eternity as long as they continue to have a cool mix of characters and a moderately good storyline. How was Hollywood ever able to make 25+ James Bond films?
If they're good movies, they're good movies. Wolverine was a good movie. Better than the Hobbit and 4.5 hours including a 39 minute sing and song sequence of dwarves doing the dishes complete with an incredibly illogical finish (why didn't the birds just drop them off at the mountain? Nah, we'll just place them here, 50 miles away and let them hike so we can get 2 more movies out of it).
I have no urge at all to watch The Wolverine. After Origins, I figured that it would be trash. First Class, X 1&2 and Days Of Future's Past are the only X-Men movies I consider cannon.
Origins was trash but The Wolverine is probably my favourite out of all of these.
Origins was trash but The Wolverine is probably my favourite out of all of these.
Really?
The Wolverine was OK, but the Silver Transformerai was brutal.
It evened out to be alright, but doesn't even come close to touching X1, X2 , First Class or DOFP.
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Apoc, Psylocke, Magneto, Storm and Archangel vs. Professor X, Mystique, Beast, Nightcrawler, Jean Grey, Havok, Cyclops, Jubilee and Quicksilver. Epic. In most movies I would say "Wow way to many characters." But it is the X-Men, not X-MAN, they need the large cast as it is what the whole arc is about.
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It is too many characters, and it's a trap a lot of sequels fall into.
X1: Wolverine, Magneto, Storm, Prof. X, Jean Grey, Sabretooth, Toad, Mystique, Cyclops, Rogue, Iceman, + a bunch of other in non-speaking/smaller roles.
X2: Wolverine, Magneto, Storm, Prof. X, Jean Grey, Sabretooth, Toad, Mystique, Cyclops, Rogue, Iceman, Stryker, Nightcrawler, Pyro, Colossus, Lady Deathstrike, and again, a ton of smaller characters.
First Class: Wolverine, Magneto, Prof. X, Mystique, Havok, Beast, Shaw, Emma Frost, Azazel, Banshee, Angel, Riptide, (more small characters).
X-Men has always had large casts, and have managened to make it work very well on most occasions. Sometimes mutants get cast, people get excitable, and then are hardly in the film at at all. Just because they cast people for these roles, doesn't mean they all have in-depth story arcs within the movie. Even in DOFP, Quicksilver has one of the best scenes, but is really only in the movie for a few minutes.
I have confidence this will be good, but it will hard to top DOFP in my books. One of my favorite movies in general.
I'm missing the Wolverine and Gambit parts for this one. Two of my favorite X men aren't in this, I may just skip it. Although I was a big fan of this version of Quicksilver.
I'm missing the Wolverine and Gambit parts for this one. Two of my favorite X men aren't in this, I may just skip it. Although I was a big fan of this version of Quicksilver.
Hmm odd. I swear I remember press releases/rumours that Jackman had filmed scenes for Apocalypse. I hope he shows up somewhere.
And yeah, Gambit too. It's crazy such a popular character has been pretty much ignored.
See, that just exposes the problem with the Apocalypse casting. His voice is just so... not imposing.
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