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Old 12-08-2023, 02:15 PM   #16841
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Great quote from the Reddit thread:

"[LaGrange] must have mixed up the party message. Oil is essential, not essential oils."
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Old 12-08-2023, 06:07 PM   #16842
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So naturopaths want to prescribe drugs now?
Sure, right after they go to medical school. A real one, not some 2 day online course that lets you call yourself a "doctor"
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Wait, those exist?

I’m already an online priest, might as well add doctor to my fridge magnets.
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So naturopaths want to prescribe drugs now?
Sure, right after they go to medical school. A real one, not some 2 day online course that lets you call yourself a "doctor"
They've been able to prescribe for a while. I could tell stores for days about the crazy crap I see from them
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Old 12-08-2023, 10:19 PM   #16846
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They've been able to prescribe for a while. I could tell stores for days about the crazy crap I see from them
In BC, not in Alberta.
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I'm BC, not in Alberta.
Me too
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Old 12-08-2023, 10:20 PM   #16848
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Me too
Hah. Sorry I meant in BC. They can't prescribe in Alberta (yet)
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They've been able to prescribe for a while. I could tell stores for days about the crazy crap I see from them
I'd love to hear a few of those!
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I'd love to hear a few of those!
Here's a few:

Seen about 5 to 10 diagnosed with "parasites". No testing done, just if the patients say they had mild diarrhea for months and/or felt unwell especially after travelling. Prescribes 3 different antiparasitics and doses well below 1/3rd of the actual doses normally given and gave a duration of 3 weeks, which isn't long enough for some and too long for others. Because these are pretty uncommon medications, total medication bill for these patients was $500.


Had a young patient on bioidentical hormones for 3 years because the naturopath said her depression was because of "hormones imbalance". Total medication costs after 3 years was easily in the multiple thousands.

40ish year old overweight diabetic was told by the naturopath that they were overweight because they had the naturopath invented disease "adrenal insufficiency" and was prescribed hydrocortisone tablets. I refused to fill the prescription because her sugars already weren't under control and this would have been disastrous. Patient was upset I wouldn't fill and went elsewhere. No idea how that turned out

A naturopath in Vancouver was treating children with autism with homeopathic rabid dog saliva. Another one in Vancouver sells cures for autism by sending kids to Mexico to have stool transplants
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Stuff like these seems like a great idea, and counter to the narrative only private companies can do this sort of efficiency thing.
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Michael Janz: Alberta gov't needs to pay its property taxes too

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Here's a few:

Seen about 5 to 10 diagnosed with "parasites". No testing done, just if the patients say they had mild diarrhea for months and/or felt unwell especially after travelling. Prescribes 3 different antiparasitics and doses well below 1/3rd of the actual doses normally given and gave a duration of 3 weeks, which isn't long enough for some and too long for others. Because these are pretty uncommon medications, total medication bill for these patients was $500.


Had a young patient on bioidentical hormones for 3 years because the naturopath said her depression was because of "hormones imbalance". Total medication costs after 3 years was easily in the multiple thousands.

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A naturopath in Vancouver was treating children with autism with homeopathic rabid dog saliva. Another one in Vancouver sells cures for autism by sending kids to Mexico to have stool transplants

Thanks for this. Amazing.

Naturopathic medicine is interesting because they so desperately want to be seen as mainstream but rely on unconventional quackery to draw the interest of right wing loonies who really are their only source of support.
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Thanks for this. Amazing.



Naturopathic medicine is interesting because they so desperately want to be seen as mainstream but rely on unconventional quackery to draw the interest of right wing loonies who really are their only source of support.
They explicitly draw out the "worried well". People who have non specific issues that want to believe their mood, non specific GI complaints, etc are easily solved by some simple solution.
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... Another one in Vancouver sells cures for autism by sending kids to Mexico to have stool transplants
Wait, what's a sto... Oh nevermind, don't bother.
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Thanks for this. Amazing.

Naturopathic medicine is interesting because they so desperately want to be seen as mainstream but rely on unconventional quackery to draw the interest of right wing loonies who really are their only source of support.
For years naturopathy has been the preview of left wing loonies. Have the right wing loonies taken over this space, or are they gathering together in a slobbery orgy of pseudo medical loonieness?
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They explicitly draw out the "worried well". People who have non specific issues that want to believe their mood, non specific GI complaints, etc are easily solved by some simple solution.
Prescribing these types people a placebo actually probably provides them with real measurable benefit.
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Prescribing these types people a placebo actually probably provides them with real measurable benefit.
They don't prescribe placebos though. They make them spend a lot of money and give them meds that do in fact have serious potential side effects. They also purposefully erode trust in science based medicine with hooey. First, do no harm. If this were the goal, prescribing antibiotics for viral infections has the same response
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