The Matthew Tkachuk contract negotiations

[Ozy_Flame]

I think Stone will be one of the better quality blueline pickups for a team come waiver time. He's not useless, and I doubt other teams want to give up any assets for him unless they're trying to dump salary themselves. I see a waiver pickup situation. According to Cap Friendly, there are at least 18 teams right now that could fit his cap hit under their own caps. That's quite a bit.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

I think Stone will be one of the better quality blueline pickups for a team come waiver time. He's not useless, and I doubt other teams want to give up any assets for him unless they're trying to dump salary themselves. I see a waiver pickup situation. According to Cap Friendly, there are at least 18 teams right now that could fit his cap hit under their own caps. That's quite a bit.

I suppose that he played so little last year that it might take some playing time for teams to have some interest in him. When people say that a player is being "showcased" I don't believe it a lot of the time, but they might have to actually do it with him.

ETA: maybe even preseason games would do it.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

I think Stone will be one of the better quality blueline pickups for a team come waiver time. He's not useless, and I doubt other teams want to give up any assets for him unless they're trying to dump salary themselves. I see a waiver pickup situation. According to Cap Friendly, there are at least 18 teams right now that could fit his cap hit under their own caps. That's quite a bit.

But a number of those teams still have players to sign.

Calgary would presumably be one of those teams.

If Stone could have been moved for any sort of value, I expect that would have happened already.

There is no way that Treliving will wait until the close of camp and waiver time to figure out Calgary's cap situation.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

But a number of those teams still have players to sign.

Calgary would presumably be one of those teams.

If Stone could have been moved for any sort of value, I expect that would have happened already.

There is no way that Treliving will wait until the close of camp and waiver time to figure out Calgary's cap situation.

Only way I can see that happening is a buyout, I truly beleive Brad can't trade Stone unless we are taking an anchor contract back - which is probably not what he's looking to do.

Isn't the buyout window coming up for the Flames? If he's not bought out, then it's waiver wire for him - the more likely of the two scenarios.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Only way I can see that happening is a buyout, I truly beleive Brad can't trade Stone unless we are taking an anchor contract back - which is probably not what he's looking to do.

Isn't the buyout window coming up for the Flames? If he's not bought out, then it's waiver wire for him - the more likely of the two scenarios.

I wonder if trading with 50% retained is an option. Better than a buyout IMO. You keep a $1.75 hit for one year instead of $1.16 for two.

Burying him in the AHL still leave a hit of $2.4 and change, plus it's not something I'd want to do to a vet like him so that's not the way to go, IMO.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Only way I can see that happening is a buyout, I truly beleive Brad can't trade Stone unless we are taking an anchor contract back - which is probably not what he's looking to do.

Isn't the buyout window coming up for the Flames? If he's not bought out, then it's waiver wire for him - the more likely of the two scenarios.

The Flames do have a short buyout window starting anytime now I believe.

If Treliving doesn't buy out Stone, it's likely because he knows he can move Brodie if he has to for draft picks if required.

It's possible the extra money that got in the Lucic trade could help facilitate a buyout of Stone.

[Toonage]

Buyout window starts tomorrow, runs for 48 hours

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

I think Stone will be one of the better quality blueline pickups for a team come waiver time. He's not useless, and I doubt other teams want to give up any assets for him unless they're trying to dump salary themselves. I see a waiver pickup situation. According to Cap Friendly, there are at least 18 teams right now that could fit his cap hit under their own caps. That's quite a bit.

For toughness Prout was playing ahead of Stone. He signed as a UFA for 800k

Fantenberg was ahead of Stone he signed a 1 year deal at $950k.

Of the 18 teams that have 3.5M of cap space how many have RFA's to sign?


Cap friendly shows the Flames with 4.6 M in cap space already with Stone's 3.5 included... so there is no problem keeping him?

[Superfraggle]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Cap friendly shows the Flames with 4.6 M in cap space already with Stone's 3.5 included... so there is no problem keeping him?

Personally I'd still like to sign Tkachuk, but that's just me...

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Cap friendly shows the Flames with 4.6 M in cap space already with Stone's 3.5 included... so there is no problem keeping him?

For depth, probably not. If he was 800k instead of 3.5 million you bet. But we need that cap space for Tkachuk.

I just don't see him being bought out or traded, only on waiver wire. And I don't really care if I'm proven wrong lol

[kurwamac]

looks like Tkachuk's on his way out

On Tkachuk...

The Flames are very much interested in Brayden Point's deal. There has been almost no movement at all so far.
https://tinyurl.com/y22lejzd

[squirtle]

Originally Posted by kurwamac

looks like Tkachuk's on his way out

Eklund garbage

[Toonage]

If you post Eklund you should be put in the sin bin. If you believe Eklund, banned.

/s (sort of)

[AC]

Originally Posted by kurwamac

looks like Tkachuk's on his way out

Funny considering Friedman recently said he's heard negotiations are progressing nicely.

[The Cobra]

The comment that "Tkachuk is on his way out" didn't come from Eklund, but from the poster.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by squirtle

Eklund garbage

He refers to Yzerman as the Tampa GM is he even trying anymore?

[dustygoon]

If the trade for Kadri was for Brodie +, then we wouldn't have moved much salary out on that deal. Has to be another plan to create room in Tre's back pocket. I hope it isn't another buyout. I like Stone for depth. After Frolik's agent antics last year, I have no problem with Frolik being sent for spare parts even.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by dustygoon

If the trade for Kadri was for Brodie +, then we wouldn't have moved much salary out on that deal. Has to be another plan to create room in Tre's back pocket. I hope it isn't another buyout. I like Stone for depth. After Frolik's agent antics last year, I have no problem with Frolik being sent for spare parts even.

It hard to trade players for picks etc. these days unless the player being traded is very sought after.

Frolik is decent enough, but he's in the downward trend of his career, and moving that much cap without taking much back isn't easy these days.

You can get UFA's for $1M who are a good or better than Stone.

I think Treliving's back pocket deal now is to trade Brodie for picks.

[---Hatrick---]

The “interest” in the Point contract, is probably speculated based off of interest in what is contract is going to come in at

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by ---Hatrick---

The “interest” in the Point contract, is probably speculated based off of interest in what is contract is going to come in at

Every team is interested in that deal, as it's sets a benchmark for their own negotiations with their own elite RFA's.