03-20-2019, 03:08 PM
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#41
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Join Date: Sep 2005
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
They started losing when he went out and started winning again when he was skating. Coincidence? Probably. But I don't think your conclusions are too solid either.
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Wow.
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03-20-2019, 03:09 PM
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#42
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
In the game thread from yesterday, it was posted that his status changed from illness to an upper body injury.
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Shocking.
We are at that time of year when we will have no idea who is hurt and if they are, what it is.
Pro tip - if the coach is asked about injuries, and his lips start moving, you're not hearing the real story.
I'm inclined to say keep resting Monahan but we simply have no idea what's going on with him.
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03-20-2019, 03:11 PM
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#43
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Join Date: Sep 2005
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Originally Posted by Strange Brew
Shocking.
We are at that time of year when we will have no idea who is hurt and if they are, what it is.
Pro tip - if the coach is asked about injuries, and his lips start moving, you're not hearing the real story.
I'm inclined to say keep resting Monahan but we simply have no idea what's going on with him.
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I'm almost certain it's a concussion from the game against the devils.
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03-20-2019, 03:13 PM
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#44
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
I'm almost certain it's a concussion from the game against the devils.
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I'm inclined to agree. Can't say I'm a huge fan of the NHL's culture of deception when it comes to this stuff. It doesn't do the players any favors IMO.
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03-20-2019, 03:16 PM
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#45
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Frolik is quietly having a decent year. He would be on pace for 46 points over 82 games. That pretty much ties or beats his best seasons over his career. Not bad for a 31 year old player not getting regular top 6 ice time. I know the stuff his agent was saying suggested that Frolik was unhappy about his usage, but I am glad we kept him. He is like a Martin Gelinas kind of player. Consistent work ethic and can play up and down the line-up and contribute.
Zucker's career output and his output this season is very similar to Frolik's. The plus is that he is is 4 years younger and signed. But for this season, going into the playoffs, I don't see Zucker as an upgrade worth adding a 1st rounder for (even a late first rounder).
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Given the contract lengths, i'd rather keep Frolik.
If you move Frolik for a contract like Zucker, your top 6 for the next few years will be set. There won't be any room to acquire any other big ticket forwards, cough Taylor Hall cough.
Guess it depends on how much you like Zucker.
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03-20-2019, 03:17 PM
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#46
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Franchise Player
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As for Neal, you certainly need to give the guy a shot given what he has shown he can accomplish in his prior life.
But I'm not convinced he is one of the team's top 12 forwards. And if he isn't come playoff time, get ready to see Peters healthy scratch the Real Deal which is going to make for some great reading.
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03-20-2019, 03:21 PM
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#47
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First Line Centre
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In his press availability today, Coach Peters said something relevant to this discussion about who comes out when Neal returns. He said Mangiapane has looked good with Doc and Hath and also with Janko and Czarnik "so there's a little bit of a common denominator in the 88 car". It sounds like Coach Peters has liked Mangiapane's game.
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03-20-2019, 08:56 PM
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#48
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
Derek Wills @Fan960Wills
#Flames lines and pairings at practice:
Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Bennett-Jankowski-Czarnik
Mangiapane-Ryan-Hathaway
Lazar-Quine-Neal
Giordano-Brodie
Hanifin-Hamonic
Fantenberg-Andersson
Kylington-Stone
Prout
Smith
Rittich
Derek Wills @Fan960Wills
Looks like Bennett and Monahan are back in, Neal remains out for #Flames.
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I would like to see:
Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Tkachuk-backlund-frolik
Bennett-Ryan-Neal
Mangiapane-Janko-Czarnik
Hathaway as the extra
Gives Ryan an expanded role and breaks up janko-bennett which I dont think is a good pair in favor of the recent chemistry janko-mangi have been vibing with.
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03-20-2019, 08:59 PM
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#49
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Franchise Player
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Ryan has really grown on me as the season has progressed. I was not a big fan of his “over-use” by Bill Peters initially, but I have come around to that now. He is the perfect example of a utility player. Can fit into any role and do a good job at it.
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03-20-2019, 09:03 PM
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#50
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Franchise Player
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Double Post
Last edited by agulati; 03-20-2019 at 10:45 PM.
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03-20-2019, 09:03 PM
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#51
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Originally Posted by agulati
Ryan has really grown on me as the season has progressed. I was not a big fan of his “over-use” by Bill Peters initially, but I have come around to that now. He is the perfect example of a utility player. Can fit into any role and do a good job at it.
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He also just seems like a genuinely hard working, nice, and humble person. Hard to find things to dislike.
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03-20-2019, 09:04 PM
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#52
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Originally Posted by Monahammer
I would like to see:
Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Tkachuk-backlund-frolik
Bennett-Ryan-Neal
Mangiapane-Janko-Czarnik
Hathaway as the extra
Gives Ryan an expanded role and breaks up janko-bennett which I dont think is a good pair in favor of the recent chemistry janko-mangi have been vibing with.
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That is a good call. Ryan has been playing very well offensively and his ability to win faceoffs would give Neal and Bennett more puck possession and hopefully scoring opportunities.
I think you play Hathaway over Czarnik though. He brings grit and is a decent agitator. That trio was also our first line in the AHL a couple years ago was it not?
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03-20-2019, 09:09 PM
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#53
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
That is a good call. Ryan has been playing very well offensively and his ability to win faceoffs would give Neal and Bennett more puck possession and hopefully scoring opportunities.
I think you play Hathaway over Czarnik though. He brings grit and is a decent agitator. That trio was also our first line in the AHL a couple years ago was it not?
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They were, but I believe they were trade out a bit earlier in the season and the magic wasnt there.. definitely could see Hathaway easily rotating in with czarnik or even neal depending on how everyone is playing!
It doesnt look to me like we've tried a Bennett-ryan-neal line before so I would like to see it!
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03-20-2019, 09:30 PM
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#54
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Lifetime Suspension
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03-20-2019, 09:48 PM
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#55
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#1 Goaltender
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I think Peters likes the heaviness of a Bennett - Jankowski - Neal line as an option. I think there will be lots of times when that kind of play is needed. Peters has done it with the 3M line - he's been very tactical.
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03-20-2019, 09:52 PM
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#56
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First Line Centre
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I'd like to see these lines tried during playoffs...
Gaudreau - Monahan - Neal
Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik
Mangiapane - Lindholm - Czarnik
Bennett - Ryan - Hathaway
Spares: Jankowski & Dubé
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03-20-2019, 10:08 PM
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#57
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by David Struch
I'd like to see these lines tried during playoffs...
Gaudreau - Monahan - Neal
Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik
Mangiapane - Lindholm - Czarnik
Bennett - Ryan - Hathaway
Spares: Jankowski & Dubé
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2nd overall...lets leave the top line alone
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03-20-2019, 10:42 PM
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#58
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
They started losing when he went out and started winning again when he was skating. Coincidence?
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You’re not even trying now...immediately after Neal was injured (literally the very next game) the boys went on a season high 7-game winning streak (Neal wasn’t skating then)
Feb 14 -Florida - loss (Neal injured in this game)
Pitt - won
Ari - won
NY - won
Ana - won
Ott - won
NY - won
NJ - won
Mar 02 - Minnesota- loss
I guess you’re still not changing your opinion, even though the “ inputs” you used to come to that opinion have been proven to be the EXACT opposite
It’s just so painful watching you post, it really is.
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03-20-2019, 10:55 PM
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#59
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by IrishSpring2013
wow.. can't wait for mono.. and benzo.. to make triumph return! such a exciting season.
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Sound like two diseases. I mean, one actually is, and the other is such an abomination of the english language that it might as well be.
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03-20-2019, 10:55 PM
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#60
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David Struch
I'd like to see these lines tried during playoffs...
Gaudreau - Monahan - Neal
Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik
Mangiapane - Lindholm - Czarnik
Bennett - Ryan - Hathaway
Spares: Jankowski & Dubé
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Why are people suggesting to ‘try things’ in the playoffs?...isnt that what the regular season is for?
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