2019 NFL off season thread

[Hockey Fan #751]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Lol I mean Ray Rice and Kareem Hunt strongly beg to differ. Until there's video or till he's charged, he's good.

I would think the closest comparable to this incident is Adrian Peterson and he was suspended for almost an entire season.

[Senator Clay Davis]

AP got convicted though. Ben is probably a better comparable, never convicted but enough smoke he got suspended. I'm aware Hill plead guilty in college, but retroactively punishing him for that now is extreme.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Rob Gronkowski officially retiring.

https://www.nfl.com/

[dirk diggler]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Rob Gronkowski officially retiring.

https://www.nfl.com/

the one thing about Gronk was that he was such a great blocker, even when he wasnt catching passes, he was a strong asset to the running game. Great player.

[Erick Estrada]

Kind of sad to see an NFL without Gronk as he was a good personality for the league as well as a great player. I don't like the Pats but I respect their accomplishments as well as their great players such as Gronkowski. Nice to see that he can walk away on top without any regrets.

[Cheese]

And.. Gronk never spent a dime of his NFL wages. Set for life. Smart guy.

[habernac]

Sad for my team, happy that Gronk gets to leave on his own terms. Seems like a pretty great guy. Celebrate, Rob, but not too much!

[Joborule]

Rob is one of the those players that you'll be hard pressed to dislike. One of the best at his position ever, and a fun personality to go with it.

[Dube]

Originally Posted by Cheese

And.. Gronk never spent a dime of his NFL wages. Set for life. Smart guy.

Nice. Is there a story in this ?

[transplant99]

The Chicago Bears will host the Green Bay Packers in the 2019 NFL opener at Soldier Field on Sept. 5. This will be the second consecutive year the Packers and Bears have met in their respective season openers. Last year, the Packers rallied from 17-0 deficit to win 24-23 at Lambeau Field. Including playoffs, the Packers and Bears franchises have met 198 times, the most common matchup in NFL history. The Packers own a 97-95-6 edge in the series. The Bears won the last meeting between the two teams last season, and haven't won consecutive games against the Packers since 2007.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Joborule

Rob is one of the those players that you'll be hard pressed to dislike. One of the best at his position ever, and a fun personality to go with it.

Could we see him on a TV panel?

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by troutman

Could we see him on a TV panel?

I don't think so. I think he will sign with NE in week 10 or 11 or whatever it has to be to be eligible for playoffs.

[Weitz]

Just read the pre-season game in Regina won't happen. Winnipeg and Edmonton are now in the mix though.

[Senator Clay Davis]

NFL owners have approved a massive philosophical expansion of its replay review system, bowing to pressure from coaches and fans who were outraged by a missed pass interference call in the NFC Championship Game.

For one year only, pass interference -- both offensive and defensive -- will be reviewable, the first penalties and judgment calls ever to be added to the list of approved reviews. Moreover, coaches will be able to challenge non-calls for pass interference. The replay booth, in conjunction with the league's officiating office in New York, will initiate those challenges in the final two minutes of each half.

Meanwhile, owners made two expected votes earlier Tuesday. They made permanent the 2018 changes to the kickoff rule, which had been made on a one-year trial basis. They also voted to eliminate all blindside blocks, not just those to the head or neck area, to increase safety on punts and other plays.

Owners also approved a proposal that gives teams a choice in the timing of enforcement on a personal foul or unsportsmanlike conduct after a scoring play. The yardage can now be marked off either on the extra point or on the kickoff.

In other voting on rules, the NFL tabled a proposal, originally put forth by the Kansas City Chiefs, to guarantee each team a possession in overtime. The league also defeated a proposal from the Denver Broncos to give teams a one-time option in the fourth quarter to have a fourth-and-15 from their 35-yard line as an alternative to an onside kick.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...able-officials

[Erick Estrada]

Boy pass interference one is going to ruffle a lot of feathers once the season starts. The egregious missed calls like the one in the Saints game aren't the ones that will be an issue but it's when coaches challenge the really close calls. Hopefully unlike the CFL I hope the NFL goes with the call on the field if it's close as once you open up that can of worms calling PI on hand fighting and minor contact you will start seeing teams with tall receivers throwing up jump balls as win-win situations like the Eskimos do.

[Joborule]

Yeah, I don't like the way it is in the CFL as it seems every review was called pass interference, although the amount of contact was minimal, and every play would have pass interference by definition then. It really takes away from the game for me.

This feels like a slippery slope.

[troutman]

Or, PI should just be a 15 yard penalty, like the NCAA? As it is, I think spot of the foul is too punitive, and bails out QBs throwing up 50/50 balls.

NFL considered that in 2017:

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2018/2/...-15-yards-rule

[Cheese]

Originally Posted by Dube

Nice. Is there a story in this ?

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/20/nfl-...oke-habit.html

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by troutman

Or, PI should just be a 15 yard penalty, like the NCAA? As it is, I think spot of the foul is too punitive, and bails out QBs throwing up 50/50 balls.

NFL considered that in 2017:

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2018/2/...-15-yards-rule

The argument against is that if a DB gets caught flat or turns his hips the wrong way and he knows he is going to get beat deep, then why not just tackle the receiver and limit what could be a 40 yd pass and/or TD to a 15 yd gain? It would be the smart move and im guessing would become something coached to defenses from training camp forward.

That would take a large chunk of a pretty exciting (and i would suggest most popular) component out of the game.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by transplant99

The argument against is that if a DB gets caught flat or turns his hips the wrong way and he knows he is going to get beat deep, then why not just tackle the receiver and limit what could be a 40 yd pass and/or TD to a 15 yd gain? It would be the smart move and im guessing would become something coached to defenses from training camp forward.

That would take a large chunk of a pretty exciting (and i would suggest most popular) component out of the game.

From the link . . .

A pretty easy safeguard is to dangle the tag of an additional unsportsmanlike conduct penalty if a defensive player really does tackle a player who had a clear path to the end zone.

So what’s good about limiting pass interference to just 15 yards?

It removes the assumption that the receiver would’ve caught the ball. Even NFL WRs don’t pull in every catch, especially contested ones, which by definition includes all plays with potential pass interference calls. If a long throw to a tightly covered receiver is 50-50 at best for the offense, why give the offense 45 yards just because the DB had a little bit more of the WR’s jersey than vice versa?

It would also lessen one WR advantage, since offensive pass interference in the NFL only costs the offense 10 yards.