I've said this repeatedly, but how the rest of you aren't bored a #### right now is beyond me. We've been playing out the string for months now, Trump is quite clearly going to lose the election, and we're just waiting to see how he plans on staying in power in the aftermath. There are no undecides to convince, and virtually nothing can be done by either candidate that will cost them support. November 4th is when things get interesting again, but those of you who suffered through that last night, I just ask myself why? Masochists I guess to suffer through Trump's played out circus act.
It's so much wasted energy. It's just a constant loop of the same thing over and over. What could one possibly expect to learn from Trump in a debate? Oh, he said something horrible? Shocking.
It's so much wasted energy. It's just a constant loop of the same thing over and over. What could one possibly expect to learn from Trump in a debate? Oh, he said something horrible? Shocking.
I’m still holding out hope trump has a massive stroke during a debate and the country gets to watch him die on live television. Talk about cathartic. It’s the debate result we all need and deserve.
The second best part would be the reaction shot of a smiling/celebrating Melania.
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I’m still holding out hope trump has a massive stroke during a debate and the country gets to watch him die on live television. Talk about cathartic. It’s the debate result we all need and deserve.
The best part would be the reaction shot of a smiling Melenia.
But then he'd still be talked about. Him getting dummied in an election and then slinking off to some former Soviet Bloc ####hole would be better overall.
His life is pathetic. Desperate to be the King of New York and ended up King of the Hillbillies.
Undecided voters from about August 2017 until now are just Trump voters who don't want to admit it.
I think that you're over simplifying this Nik. It isn't a question of undecideds to me anymore. Its a question of did these two just do such a poor job that people will lose their motivation to get out and vote?
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It's so much wasted energy. It's just a constant loop of the same thing over and over. What could one possibly expect to learn from Trump in a debate? Oh, he said something horrible? Shocking.
Like even if you miss him finally dropping the N-word or doing something like eating his own ####, you can see it again on replay again and again. But suffering through hours of him and his stream of unconciousness is so tedious and painful. There's a reason everything he does eventually fails, he knows one approach and has zero ability to show variety. He's been Donald Trump, ####### Supreme for basically his entire life.
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I think that you're over simplifying this Nik. It isn't a question of undecideds to me anymore. Its a question of did these two just do such a poor job that people will lose their motivation to get out and vote?
I'm not. If you still say you're undecided after Charlottesville, you're a Trump voter.
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I've said this repeatedly, but how the rest of you aren't bored a #### right now is beyond me. We've been playing out the string for months now, Trump is quite clearly going to lose the election, and we're just waiting to see how he plans on staying in power in the aftermath. There are no undecides to convince, and virtually nothing can be done by either candidate that will cost them support. November 4th is when things get interesting again, but those of you who suffered through that last night, I just ask myself why? Masochists I guess to suffer through Trump's played out circus act.
It's crazy. We have, what, 3 provincial elections announced now, and I think they all happen before the US election. Nice, short, tight campaigns. The US endless election cycle has to die. It's aweful. Does any other country have such a bizarre state of continuous campaigning?
In one way I'd say Americans are getting exactly what they deserve. In another way I think Americans have been so completely mislead by social media, to the point where someone like Trump can run some some ads on Facebook, stoke the unrest, get people into an uproar, and work to keep them there for years while he lies to them that he is their savior.
Remember when Cambridge Analytica was in the news for manipulating voter profiles with Facebook? Those were the days, when we actually saw how the American election cycle has become a game and we thought this time someone will really do something about.
Then we realized nobody cares, and around and around we keep going.
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The good thing for Kamala is that Trump gave her a lot to work with.
She can basically use it to reinforce what a terrible person Trump is
At some point, people are going to figure out that this is a pointless exercise, right?
I mean, for ####'s sake, if you weren't convinced about who Trump was as a human being by this point in the 2016 cycle you weren't paying attention. You've had four years of Trump being Trump. Everyone who it's possible to convince that he's a bad person is convinced. This accomplishes nothing. The only thing Kamala and Joe can do that will make a difference is to actually point out, hey, we actually understand the problems facing this country and making your life difficult right now, and we have the following solutions. If Trump is going to continue being a man-baby, that's out of your hands.
Of course if he keeps shouting overtop of you you're going to have a hard time communicating anything but Joe's best moments - from the few bits I was able to sit through - seem to have been when he managed to thread that needle. Kamala needs to do likewise.
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I've said this repeatedly, but how the rest of you aren't bored a #### right now is beyond me. We've been playing out the string for months now, Trump is quite clearly going to lose the election, and we're just waiting to see how he plans on staying in power in the aftermath. There are no undecides to convince, and virtually nothing can be done by either candidate that will cost them support.
Eh, this view assumes that turnout is also fixed, which isn't the case I don't think.
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If it were me, I would just re-enact the most egregious parts in an over the top, exaggerated way, while constantly flashing "THIS REALLY HAPPENED" over the bottom half of the screen.
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Out of thanks but this is a very well reasoned post. I don't think there is much of an informed Albertan pro Trump viewpoint. If you're pro Trump in Alberta it's probably for the same reasons people are pro Trump in montana. Saying Alberta needs Trump is pretty silly.
Not sure if you are insinuating I am pro Trump and/or uninformed. My post contained pros and cons to Alberta for each candidate, but I guess objective pondering of any upside to Trump is beyond the pale here.
What I said was that I believed based on Biden endorsements for Buy America and his slip of support for the Green New deal he may not be this white knight for people outside the USA.
If he cancels Keystone as promised, and the rail link to Alaska for purely political reasons is that a win? If he keeps the tariffs and increases them on us is that a win?
I will be clear, I wouldn't vote for Trump if I were American. People need to temper themselves however in this battle of pure good and evil. Neither men fit that bill and Canadians should be prepared that not much may change if Biden wins.
It isn't just me who sees that here is an offering from the Liberal paper:
Corsi is right. We've know since 2016 that Trump is exactly the type of person we saw in the debate yesterday.
Which again begs the question, which moron in the DNC decided Joe Biden would be who can unite everyone against him?
What a mess.
I don't think Biden can unite "everyone" against trump. It's clear that 30% of USA voters will support trump.
Besides, current polls suggest that Biden is doing about as well as anyone can. I don't think there is anyone short of Michelle Obama that could be doing better.
Well, I don't know that those two sentences support each other.
Respectfully, they do.
Trump (and Wallace, particularly in this moment) were interrupting incessantly while he was trying to talk. Trump was specifically spouting “Green New Deal” in the middle of Biden’s answer.
It’d be very difficult for you or I to give an answer with zero slips if a five year old was interrupting us the way Trump was.
And regarding dementia: I watched both my grandparents die from it, hollowed out from the inside over a period of ten years. If Joe Biden were losing his mind, he would not be able to function in this arena, full stop.
People with dementia get twitchy when they’re outside their own home because they don’t know where everything is.
They can’t stand next to the sitting president for 90 minutes and make more coherent arguments than him.
So yeah. I don’t see a reason for two more of these. Biden is up nearly double digits in Pennsylvania and 7 in Wisconsin. Now is not the time to spike the football, but it is the time to go for the throat.
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