2020 NFL Season Thread

[DropIt]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Wentz is broken. His regression to a player who has zero awareness, zero clue where to go with the ball, zero ability to process has been like seeing a Flowers for Algernon situation unfold.

I dont think Wentz was ever good.

Watching Nick Foles play football, makes me believe that the Eagles must have had one of the best all around teams in many years, in all facets of the game. Theres no other explanation.
Nick Foles is the worst QB to win a superbowl, making that Eagles team truly great.

From this it's easy to pinpoint the fact that Wentz has been comfortably sheltered, and now that they're starting to cone down to earth we can truly see the real Carson. One of the worst starting QBs in the league

[Senator Clay Davis]

LOL how the #### do you lose a yard when the Seahawks have five guys playing 15 yards off the ball.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

How do you even call that play in this situation? Go for it.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by DropIt

I dont think Wentz was ever good.

Watching Nick Foles play football, makes me believe that the Eagles must have had one of the best all around teams in many years, in all facets of the game. Theres no other explanation.
Nick Foles is the worst QB to win a superbowl, making that Eagles team truly great.

From this it's easy to pinpoint the fact that Wentz has been comfortably sheltered, and now that they're starting to cone down to earth we can truly see the real Carson. One of the worst starting QBs in the league

Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Tom Brady, and Aaron Rogers have spoiled a generation into thinking QB's can operate behind bad offensive lines. (And Mahomes going forward looks to be in this group)

These 4 guys will go down as top 10 in the history of the game. We are beyond spoiled to have them all playing at the same time.

Now having a QB that good forces the D to play differently and 'usually' not blitz, so it's a chicken and egg whether they have good lines or just the lines look good because they are so smart.

For most other mortals, when rushed you panic, look poor, and make bad decisions. Some are better then others, but outside of maybe 6 guys at any given time, the quality of their play is a direct reflection of the line in front of them.

Wentz may be good. He might not be. But no non HOF QB is doing anything with that O-Line.

[browna]

Eagles cover the spread with very odd decision to go for the 2pt convert.

[rubecube]

Ouch.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1333410984971497477

[DropIt]

Darius Slay was so good with the Lions. Looks like Buster Skrine with the Eagles

[Senator Clay Davis]

It's become more commonplace when a team is down 14 with a short amount of time to go for 2 on the first score. Logic is sound, if you're going to go for 2 at all you might as well do it first and if you miss you are still in it, whereas if you miss the second one you have no time left. Pretty hilarious it burned someone for $500,000 though.

[Ducay]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

It's become more commonplace when a team is down 14 with a short amount of time to go for 2 on the first score. Logic is sound, if you're going to go for 2 at all you might as well do it first and if you miss you are still in it, whereas if you miss the second one you have no time left.

I've read plenty of analysis on the going for 2 option down 14 and its horsecrock. There is a reason teams aren't going for 2 with tie games or 7 point games, even though the underlying logic remains the same. I've yet to see the odds work out in the favor of the team down 14 on a meaningful basis. Let alone when a HC is commanding one of the world's most impotent offenses.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by DropIt

Darius Slay was so good with the Lions. Looks like Buster Skrine with the Eagles

Slay has actually been one of the lone bright spots this year. Metcalf is just a beast.

[troutman]

https://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nfl/...k1jt3kyf2mx5q6

Across the 2018 and 2019 NFL seasons, teams converted two-point conversion attempts 49.4 percent of the time. That compares to making the one-point point after kick 94.1 percent of the time.

Those numbers can be used to have a point expectation per conversion attempt, which some call "Expected Points Added." Since two-point conversions are worth, yes, two points, converting them at a 49.4 percent rate means you can expect to score an average of 0.988 points per two-point try.

At a 94.1 percent extra point rate, PATs come with an expected points added of 0.941. That means two-point conversions, on average, can be expected to bring slightly more scoring in the long run than extra points at the 2018-19 conversion rates.

There are classic situations when teams go for two. If you're down 16 and score a touchdown late, you go for two to get within eight, for example. Most people can do the math on the eight-point increments to figure out when that type of two-point conversion helps. But teams don't go for two enough, according to FiveThirtyEight and a number of other mathematical breakdowns.

FiveThirtyEight came up with 11 post-TD margins that teams should go for two during, with 10 minutes left in the game: Down 15, down 13, down 11, down 10, down eight, down five, down four, down two, up one, up five and up 12.

[KelVarnsen]

Just in case you forgot how much of an idiot Jerry Jones is

https://twitter.com/user/status/1333787993899823106

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by KelVarnsen

Just in case you forgot how much of an idiot Jerry Jones is

https://twitter.com/user/status/1333787993899823106

Is he wrong though? Dinucci had the worst QB start in the past 20 years before the Broncos game. and he got a week to get ready for it.

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Is he wrong though? Dinucci had the worst QB start in the past 20 years before the Broncos game. and he got a week to get ready for it.

Yes he’s objectively wrong. One of those people is a quarterback who played quarterback in college and was drafted as a quarterback to play quarterback. The other is a practice squad wide receiver who barely played QB in college and was primarily a WR. This isn’t rocket appliances.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Yes he’s objectively wrong. One of those people is a quarterback who played quarterback in college and was drafted as a quarterback to play quarterback. The other is a practice squad wide receiver who barely played QB in college and was primarily a WR. This isn’t rocket appliances.

Well the results were the same after the game. But i can say that as a nerd on a forum and not the team's owner i guess.

[Muffins]

The results being the same says more about the ineptitude of the Cowboys organization than anything. Since Jerry's massive ego won't let him admit that, he throws out that BS comment.

[Sylvanfan]

It's a dumb comment. DiNucci was bad, but he threw for 180 yards, 0 picks and had more completions than incompletions. He still threw 40 passes. Denver barely ran 40 plays.

[KelVarnsen]

Taysom Hill completed as many passes to the Broncos that the Broncos completed to the Broncos.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Can we try and pretend that game ever happened? It wasn't even fun from a car crash perspective.

[devo22]

a Champions League game and an NFL game at the same time. What a time to be alive lol