R2 - Series Thread - Golden Knights (P1) vs Sharks (P3)

[rage2]

Originally Posted by Yamer

Ok, here's where I have a completely open mind.

Someone please convince me that Vegas goal shouldn't count. I will not be an ass, and I'm listening. A lot of experts and analysts seem ok with the decision, but I just can't understand why.

I know I'm missing something. Help me out!

The closest I can find is in the rules, table 16 situation 1C.

1. THE GOALKEEPER IS IN THE GOAL CREASE.

C. An attacking player makes incidental contact with the goalkeeper at the same time a goal is scored.

Goal is disallowed. The official in his judgment may call a minor penalty on the attacking player. The announcement should be, “No goal due to interference with the goalkeeper.”

Only thing questionable is at the same time, can be interpreted as the whole sequence there. In that case, no goal is a good call.

No wonder even players don’t get goaltender interference calls.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Yamer

Incidental is the problem. In that case, it should count.

Goals get called back for incidental contact all the time. Reason being it still prevents the goalie from having a fair chance to make a save.

[dino7c]

I was watching in a bar with the sound off...second we saw it I called no goal

Right call, you can't allow that...players would be cutting out from behind the net on every play to try and get a piece of the tenders stick and spin him around

Its text book IMO

[getbak]

Originally Posted by dino7c

players would be cutting out from behind the net on every play to try and get a piece of the tenders stick and spin him around

So, basically how Ryan Smyth spent his entire career?

[united]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

What a dumb suspension video. No mention of the obvious - that Pavelski is battling with Schmidt, then Bellemare, who is an enforcer, starts moving in on Pavelski, who is the Sharks' captain and hardly a tough guy. Kane goes after Bellemare, unsurprisingly, and cross checks him twice in more or less identical fashion, with the second going up his arm and into his face. I mean, if you're going to suspend a guy, at least be honest about what happened.

Bellemare, all 6'0 200 pounds of him, who finished this season with 14 PIMs and 0 major penalties - fighting or other - in 72 games, who has 5 fights in 300+ career games, and who averages 21 PIMs/82 games is an enforcer? What an odd take.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by united

Bellemare, all 6'0 200 pounds of him, who finished this season with 14 PIMs and 0 major penalties - fighting or other - in 72 games, who has 5 fights in 300+ career games, and who averages 21 PIMs/82 games is an enforcer? What an odd take.

Yeah, wrong word - grinder, energy guy, depth guy, what have you... the point is that he's going to step in before Nate Schmidt, and that he's going to try to take Joe Pavelski, who is a top-end offensive player, off the ice with him because that's just a good trade for the Knights.

As for the disallowed goal, for me, he was clearly interfered with and the argument is whether he had enough time to recover. It was a continuous play, so I can understand why they called it like that. It looked like Jones at least made a half-hearted effort to get back to get the puck (which, it's not like you're giving up on a play in OT).

[Erick Estrada]

I've said it before but I will say it again; the Sharks are so annoying.

[timbit]

Great start with awesome pace to start the game.

[direwolf]

That building is rockin!

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I've said it before but I will say it again; the Sharks are so annoying.

Huh. I find that they don't have a lot of guys to hate actually. I like Burns and big Joe, along with Pavelski and I enjoy the fact that they still got Jones despite LA trying their best to keep him out east. Anaheim has guys like Kesler and Bieksa so its much easier to hate.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Huh. I find that they don't have a lot of guys to hate actually. I like Burns and big Joe, along with Pavelski and I enjoy the fact that they still got Jones despite LA trying their best to keep him out east. Anaheim has guys like Kesler and Bieksa so its much easier to hate.

Yeah, Sharks are largely irrelevant all things considered.

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Huh. I find that they don't have a lot of guys to hate actually. I like Burns and big Joe, along with Pavelski and I enjoy the fact that they still got Jones despite LA trying their best to keep him out east. Anaheim has guys like Kesler and Bieksa so its much easier to hate.

Yea, I don't hate the Sharks either, unless of course we're facing them in the playoffs. Also the Flames have generally played well against them over the years, so I've always been somewhat indifferent to them as far as rivalries go. There's nowhere near the same level of hate for the Sharks as there is for Anaheim, Edmonton, or Vancouver.

[It's a great day 4 hockey]

First time I've ever seen Burke with a tie done up. I'm with Elliot, I can't take him seriously.

[direwolf]

Can't believe the Sharks didn't score there. How the hell did that stay out?

[timbit]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Can't believe the Sharks didn't score there. How the hell did that stay out?

McNab made a remarkable block with his skate in the crease.

[activeStick]

Wow, great heads up pass there instead of shooting.

[nik-]

Wow

[direwolf]

Wow, this game has gone south quickly for the Sharks. Vegas just taking over.

[wwkayaker]

That was a beauty goal!

[getbak]

That was dirty.