That'd be a disastrous outcome for F1, and if he does it on purpose, I don't see how it doesn't end up looking like a total clown show.
Didn’t they vacate Schumacher’s results when he did this in 97? Jacques finished the race but I think they kicked Michael out of the championship anyways. I’m too lazy to google it.
I’d be shocked if they didn’t find a way to reprimand Max if he does that.
Which reminds me, I legit lol’d when Di Resta said on the broadcast there’s a zero % Max does anything dirty because no one wants to win that way. Like #### dude, either you’re saying that because sky told you to or you’re delirious.
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Come Sunday, I predict Max will knock both he and Lewis from the race - but not before Lewis has set fastest lap. Perez will then pit unnecessarily from 1st place for new softs (to set a new fastest time), and Bottas will chase him down trying to knock him out, demolition derby style.
Or something
I’d love to see this happen except it’s one of the back markers who swerves and knocks out Max when he’s passing with blue flags as sweet justice. Let them settle it on the track alright.
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Didn’t they vacate Schumacher’s results when he did this in 97? Jacques finished the race but I think they kicked Michael out of the championship anyways. I’m too lazy to google it.
Yes
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Come Sunday, I predict Max will knock both he and Lewis from the race - but not before Lewis has set fastest lap. Perez will then pit unnecessarily from 1st place for new softs (to set a new fastest time), and Bottas will chase him down trying to knock him out, demolition derby style.
Or something
You have to finish in the top 10 to get the point.
Frankly I'm still amazed you can brake check in F1 and get a time penalty that doesn't have any affect. Like, if I'm making safety rules, brake checking would be #1 for getting tossed from the championship, or a race penalty, or a 10 place grid drop next race. I dunno, something, anything with actual consequence.
These steward decisions are so bad this year, setting terrible precedent. It's really soured the season for me. I don't ever remember so many like this. Spa didn't even hold a race, yet they somehow decided half points were cool. What a joke.
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Didn’t they vacate Schumacher’s results when he did this in 97? Jacques finished the race but I think they kicked Michael out of the championship anyways. I’m too lazy to google it.
I’d be shocked if they didn’t find a way to reprimand Max if he does that.
Which reminds me, I legit lol’d when Di Resta said on the broadcast there’s a zero % Max does anything dirty because no one wants to win that way. Like #### dude, either you’re saying that because sky told you to or you’re delirious.
I’d love to see this happen except it’s one of the back markers who swerves and knocks out Max when he’s passing with blue flags as sweet justice. Let them settle it on the track alright.
Yes. Better.
Maybe best would be that above (and no fastest lap) but Mercedes puts car back together after Lewis limps around to pit, rejoining the race a lap down in 18th and then watching him weave through the field, passing Ocon for 10th down the final straight, and finishing the GP with a single championship point. Lol
He really like to drive into the corner hot and overshoot the apex forcing the outside driver to let off and lose momentum. Your choice is let off or he runs into you. Same thing when he took Hamilton and Ocon 3 wide last race.
I keep saying he's got serious talent but moves like that aren't talent they are just bullying your way through.
These steward decisions are so bad this year, setting terrible precedent. It's really soured the season for me. I don't ever remember so many like this. Spa didn't even hold a race, yet they somehow decided half points were cool. What a joke.
I really think they need to have a couple teams of stewards that travel to the races. Have it so that Team A works one race, Team B works the next, then back to A. Bring some consistency and process to it, with a team who has the time and experience to truly learn the rule set Formula 1 has set forward.
The thing is, I'm not sure it'll happen. I'm not sure Formula 1 really wants the consistency, as drama drives views, especially in the US. I don't think the teams want it, because I don't think they truthfully want the consistency. Aside from the brake check, which was utter garbage, all drivers stretch the boudaries at some point. If you institute consistency, you remove a portion of the drama, and you ensure your driver is going to get penalized if they attempt to operate outside those boundaries.
Come Sunday, I predict Max will knock both he and Lewis from the race - but not before Lewis has set fastest lap. Perez will then pit unnecessarily from 1st place for new softs (to set a new fastest time), and Bottas will chase him down trying to knock him out, demolition derby style.
Or something
You only get a fastest lap point if you finish top 10. I don't think there's any scenario where fastest lap comes into play...One in P10 + FL and the other P9 makes a tie that Max still wins.
Lewis got 6 pts from fast lap to Max's 4pts (though Max had fl at one race and was outside top 10).
So the hokey points kinda cancel each other out.
Lewis would have a 150-149 lead in the previous 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1
Max leads 133-129 with 10-6-4-3-2-1
Max also leads in the previous three systems which are before my time...
I think Max outqualified Hamilton (so he'd have a lead if they gave a point for fastest qualifier), but it's confusing with the stupid sprint terminology. Since they've added some gimmicky points, I wouldn't be opposed to adding more to qualifying...1 pt each for fastest in Q1, Q2, and Q3.
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@powderjunkie the dumbest points of this season were from the Spa non-race. That was 5pt swing to Max. I'm ok with the fastest lap and sprint qualy points...but those Spa ones are idiotic.
@woob Do you know how F1 picks stewards and race control staff? Are they volunteers like the track workers?
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@powderjunkie the dumbest points of this season were from the Spa non-race. That was 5pt swing to Max. I'm ok with the fastest lap and sprint qualy points...but those Spa ones are idiotic.
@woob Do you know how F1 picks stewards and race control staff? Are they volunteers like the track workers?
I find it hard to get fussed about Spa compared to the 25 point swing at Silverstone and Hamilton's lucky unlapping at Imola. It all comes out in the wash
FIA race control staff are permanent...a bit of a failure in succession planning relying so heavily on Charlie Whiting and Herbie Blash for so many years. I think Masi is fine, and I love hearing the radio, but it definitely undermines him. Plenty of stupidity happened under the old regime, too.
He really like to drive into the corner hot and overshoot the apex forcing the outside driver to let off and lose momentum. Your choice is let off or he runs into you. Same thing when he took Hamilton and Ocon 3 wide last race.
I keep saying he's got serious talent but moves like that aren't talent they are just bullying your way through.
He'd probably be a lot of fun to watch in NASCAR.
The FIA were asking for this when they let Hamilton get away with Silverstone. Many of us called it back then.
At any rate, they have let champion leaders do this regularly. Schumi, Senna, Hamilton has driver many people off the road. Now Max.
I find it hard to get fussed about Spa compared to the 25 point swing at Silverstone and Hamilton's lucky unlapping at Imola. It all comes out in the wash
FIA race control staff are permanent...a bit of a failure in succession planning relying so heavily on Charlie Whiting and Herbie Blash for so many years. I think Masi is fine, and I love hearing the radio, but it definitely undermines him. Plenty of stupidity happened under the old regime, too.
The lack of transparency and inconsistency/rule ambiguity has been an issue forever.
You find it hard to get fussed that a 2 lap race 'completed' entirely under yellow is the win that separates these two?
If, and I hope it won't, but if that win determines the championship it is a travesty in order of magnitude worse than than any questionable time penalties, grid drops or controversial crashes.
Fortunately the only realistic way this potentially impacts is double DNF, and here's to that not happening.
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