2020/2021 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[SnipeShow]

Originally Posted by nik-

Losing Jankowski ...

That definitely hurt... It's common knowledge he is Crosby's heir apparent these days

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[GS Skier]

Originally Posted by MrMike

I like to think of it positively.

We wouldn’t have had room for Tanev and Markstrom, never have moved Lindholm to center, yada yada butterfly effect

Agree, it's on the level of why didn't we draft the guy who 3 selections down scored more than our guy.

Don't post often but why are page after page devoted to trading for guy who has clearly stated he wants a big stage and New York in particular.

Deadline trades will be strictly to add for playoffs and regular season trades just ain't happening. He's an RFA and we get one year and then he just holds out again for his $10 Million to try to get to NY. He doesn't sound sound like a "great guy in the room" but we'll never know because we aren't in rooms. Then the assets we traded are gone and so will he be.

I get the spit balling but gee whiz page after page after page on a fairy tale trade when the 3 centers we have are off to a pretty good start. Man some of you guys need lives.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by MrMike

I like to think of it positively.

We wouldn’t have had room for Tanev and Markstrom, never have moved Lindholm to center, yada yada butterfly effect

Feel like a Backlund or Monahan trade would’ve occurred by then so the Flames could have a Lindholm, Kadri, Monahan or Backlund 1-2-3 punch.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by nik-

Losing Jankowski ...

Could come back to bite us in the ass, especially if he has a great bounce back year (very likely).

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

Could come back to bite us in the ass, especially if he has a great bounce back year (very likely).

Jankowski will bite us in the ass the same way as Lazar and Kulak. Meh.

[Jiri Hrdina]

They didn’t lose Jankowski
They chose not to qualify him

[TheScorpion]

Where does Jankowski even play on this iteration of the roster? There's no room for him at all.

[ResAlien]

Lol losing Jankowski. How will we ever fill that massive hole in the lineup?

*Flames sign literally anyone*

Oh neat that’s how

[CsInMyBlood]

Originally Posted by GS Skier

Agree, it's on the level of why didn't we draft the guy who 3 selections down scored more than our guy.

Don't post often but why are page after page devoted to trading for guy who has clearly stated he wants a big stage and New York in particular.

Deadline trades will be strictly to add for playoffs and regular season trades just ain't happening. He's an RFA and we get one year and then he just holds out again for his $10 Million to try to get to NY. He doesn't sound sound like a "great guy in the room" but we'll never know because we aren't in rooms. Then the assets we traded are gone and so will he be.

I get the spit balling but gee whiz page after page after page on a fairy tale trade when the 3 centers we have are off to a pretty good start. Man some of you guys need lives.

A guy who has clearly stated he wants a big stage?

Hes never said anything remotely close to that.

After these 2 years he is still an RFA. We dont just lose him for nothing even if he wants to leave. Which I dont believe he will, because we have a good young locker room and will have team success with his addition to this lineup.

We cannot win with Monahans ghost and one dimensional game in the playoffs. It's obvious we are spinning our wheels. It's time to shake up this team, move Monahan and pick up a center with a massive ceiling coming into his prime. A bold move. If Dubois turns into half the player it looks like he's going to, the Flames will be laughing for a decade or more.

Some of these trade proposals are insane. Wouldnt trade Valimaki one for one? Jesus. Think about it this way, if Matthew Tkachuk said he wanted out, would you take guys like Bennett, Hanifin and a first for him? How ridiculous.

Columbus is in win now. Monahan meets the first line center criteria according to his stats and is 26 years old. Has to be attractive to the Jackets as a start. If Columbus truly wants picks and prospects there are many teams that would be able to put together a better offer than the Flames.

We arent going to get a chance for a guy like this again. It just doesn't happen.

[VilleN]

It’s the year 2075, Calgary has finally got its new stadium, the Oilers, in an unprecedented move by the league, have been demoted to the AHL where they continue to struggle. And on the Calgary Puck forum, there is a thread that has gone off the rails and is discussing 2012 draft pick, Mark Jankowski.

[Pickle Juice]

The reason we are all saying Monahan would be part of the package to get Dubois is the same reason he would not be part of the package from a flames stand point. We are in win now mode and I would argue getting rid of anyone that the jackets would like on our team would be a lateral move.

This move would involve picks from our stand point and would take some move to unload salary potentially through another club.

All these reasons in my opinion make it very unrealistic why are the ones taking the girl to the dance.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

Stone was never a rental. It was well documented that he wanted an extension when he was traded.

And yes, if Tkachuk was demanding a trade I would take that deal in a heartbeat and laugh endlessly at the GM dumb enough to give up 5 assets (4 of them being extremely valuable) for one player.

His value in a trade was as a rental.


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[bigrangy]

The package that makes sense for Dubois is Ryan/Lucic + insane futures (several firsts, good prospects).

Adding Dubois makes no sense if you’re subtracting big parts from the existing roster. Take the guy who would get pushed out of the lineup once Dubois is here and and a stupid level of futures. I don’t know what that is.

[Strange Brew]

IMO Flames are still trying to build a contender, not in “one piece away” mode. Treliving shouldn’t be afraid of trading a core piece if the return is worth it. Losing Monahan for Dubois better positions the team for playoff success IMO. I’d give it a shot.

[PegCityFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by bigrangy

The package that makes sense for Dubois is Ryan/Lucic + insane futures (several firsts, good prospects).

Adding Dubois makes no sense if you’re subtracting big parts from the existing roster. Take the guy who would get pushed out of the lineup once Dubois is here and and a stupid level of futures. I don’t know what that is.

That makes sense to who exactly? This isn't NHL21.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by PegCityFlamesFan

That makes sense to who exactly? This isn't NHL21.

Ryan + Lucic makes great sense to me lol

[Heavy Jack]

Hanifin + Dube + 21 1st + 22 2nd + Pelletier

for

PLD

Monahan - Dubois - Gaudreau
Tkachuk - Lindholm - Mangiapane
Bennett - Backlund - Leivo
Lucic - Ryan - Simon
Nordstrom

Giordano - Andersson
Kylington - Tanev
Valimaki - Nesterov
Mackey

Markstrom
Rittich

[Heavy Jack]

Personally looking at that and it’s too rich IMO; is that close to what it will take? Less? More?

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

Hanifin + Dube + 21 1st + 22 2nd + Pelletier

for

PLD

Monahan - Dubois - Gaudreau
Tkachuk - Lindholm - Mangiapane
Bennett - Backlund - Leivo
Lucic - Ryan - Simon
Nordstrom

Giordano - Andersson
Kylington - Tanev
Valimaki - Nesterov
Mackey

Markstrom
Rittich

What...What on earth... are you being serious?

[Groot]

I may be the only one that thinks this, but I do not want PLD given what the asking price will be and his contract situation. Giving up 4+ top assets for him? Thats pure insanity to me. His best season is 0.74 PPG, he has positive advanced stats but started 60%+ in the ozone every year. Not saying he's not a great player, but people here are treating him like the next Crosby and I just don't see it.

Then there's also the fact that if we did have PLD, that means in 2022-2023 we would have to re-sign Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Mangiapane, PLD, and possibly Gio on 39.6 million projected cap, meaning we have to trade at least 1 away prior or have them likely walk for nothing.