2020/2021 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[looooob]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Well, those guys didn't do these things when they were 24 to be fair.

only answering because Perreault was my favorite player growing up I know others have already responded similarly


in Perreault's 24 year old season (where he missed 10 games so only registered 96 points), the recent expansion Sabres had a very strong regular season, and took down the Habs in the Semifinals before losing to the Flyers in the Finals
as a rookie Perreault took the calder and broke the existing rookie scoring records- although then he set up his LW/linemate to break the rookie goal record again the next year.



I think Eichel is a great player and have no comment on the trade value but Perreault was pretty good by 24

[dissentowner]

Why are we still discussing Eichel? Even if the Sabres moved him we won't be in on it. Nothing ever changes with this team. There won't be any changes to this team in any aspect this year. Next year? Rinse and repeat.

[Poe969]

Brett Connolly on waivers....

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Except he is vastly superior to Monahan and doesn’t need a midget to pad his stats

The disrespect is astonishing after how this team struggled to generate a bare minimum of offense in Sean Monahan's absence.

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[Hockey-and_stuff]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Why are we still discussing Eichel? Even if the Sabres moved him we won't be in on it. Nothing ever changes with this team. There won't be any changes to this team in any aspect this year. Next year? Rinse and repeat.

Discussing crazy hypothetical trades is the most exciting part of this season though!

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Pretty much a 20 goal man the last 2 years, but at 3.5M

3.5 for 20 goal guys is fine as long as they dont hurt you defensively

He is pretty good defensively.

RS/RW and has a bit of size.

Sure checks a lot of boxes for this club.

[Saqe]

Connolly hasn't been bad but kind of got lost in the mix and didn't find a spot in the top 9 this year. And he isn't something you ideally want on your fourth line.



3.5 million is a lot in the current cap environment though, can't see him getting claimed without someone sending money back.

[CGY12]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

The disrespect is astonishing after how this team struggled to generate a bare minimum of offense in Sean Monahan's absence.

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So are you saying Eichel isn't vastly superior to Monahan?

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by CGY12

So are you saying Eichel isn't vastly superior to Monahan?

No. I am saying that Monahan does not leech points from Gaudreau.

But I am also not convinced that Eichel is "vastly" superior, depending on how one chooses to define the adjective.

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[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Poe969

Brett Connolly on waivers....

Big right shooting RW with puck retrieval skills and some ability to finish? Hells yes! Too bad we don't have any cap space. Maybe a trade? Ryan for Connolly?

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by CGY12

So are you saying Eichel isn't vastly superior to Monahan?

Vastly? Not sure I would go there. Different type of player which makes them difficult to judge TBH. Eichel is better at driving the play, but that isn't Monahan's job with Gaudreau on the wing. Eichel has never really impressed me much, but he plays for Buffalo so that may have something to do with it. He definitely isn't like McHobo and is elite at anything. He's a way above average center, but not a dominant player like McHobo. I put Eichel in the same class as Monahan, maybe a little higher only because he is a line driver. Monahan is criminally under-rated around here.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Why are we still discussing Eichel? Even if the Sabres moved him we won't be in on it. Nothing ever changes with this team. There won't be any changes to this team in any aspect this year. Next year? Rinse and repeat.

If Eichel is ever available and it's reported Treliving didn't like the cost he should be fired to the moon.

[CGY12]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

No. I am saying that Monahan does not leech points from Gaudreau.

But I am also not convinced that Eichel is "vastly" superior, depending on how one chooses to define the adjective.

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Leech is probably not the right word, but he relies heavily on JG's ability to gain entry into the zone and find him in the right spots.

In terms of the Eichel comparison, it really isn't close. Eichel is a vastly superior skater, puck handler and possess a higher hockey IQ, 3 absolute musts for a #1 centre. I would argue Monahan does none of those 3 things at an above average level. Even in the circle Eichel trumps Monahan. Then again Monahan isn't a true #1 centre so the comparison probably isn't fair.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by New Era

Vastly? Not sure I would go there. I put Eichel in the same class as Monahan, maybe a little higher only because he is a line driver. Monahan is criminally under-rated around here.

Talking about delusional

[868904]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

If Eichel is ever available and it's reported Treliving didn't like the cost he should be fired to the moon.

Yeah, to get a guy like Eichel, you do whatever it takes.

Tkachuk and Lindholm. I think that's what it will take and I'm fine with that cost. Maybe you get an extra small piece in return with Eichel.

[CGY12]

Originally Posted by New Era

Vastly? Not sure I would go there. Different type of player which makes them difficult to judge TBH. Eichel is better at driving the play, but that isn't Monahan's job with Gaudreau on the wing. Eichel has never really impressed me much, but he plays for Buffalo so that may have something to do with it. He definitely isn't like McHobo and is elite at anything. He's a way above average center, but not a dominant player like McHobo. I put Eichel in the same class as Monahan, maybe a little higher only because he is a line driver. Monahan is criminally under-rated around here.

Driving play is exactly what you expect from a #1 C. Even with Gaudreau on his wing, if Monahan had that capability (which he doesn't), you know how much of a load that would take off JGs shoulders. Its ultimately one of the contributing factors in how easy they are to shut down 5 on 5 come playoff time. Monahan is nowhere close to being in the same class as Eichel.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by CGY12

Leech is probably not the right word, but he relies heavily on JG's ability to gain entry into the zone and find him in the right spots...

No more so than Gaudreau relies on Monahan to convert, as well as to play the puck in traffic. Both players benefit a great deal from one another.


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[Inglewood Jack]

Wow today I learned that Eichel and Monahan are on the same tier. This is starting to tread dangerously close to a few years ago when a one or two commented that they would take Monahan over McDavid. As a fan board we are expected to be biased but this is hfboards stuff. Watch hockey other than your own team occasionally instead of just deferring to raw point totals as the only measure.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by CGY12

Driving play is exactly what you expect from a #1 C. Even with Gaudreau on his wing, if Monahan had that capability (which he doesn't), you know how much of a load that would take off JGs shoulders. Its ultimately one of the contributing factors in how easy they are to shut down 5 on 5 come playoff time. Monahan is nowhere close to being in the same class as Eichel.

Well, again, how "close" that gap is is pretty impressionistic. And while you may be right about how the line struggles during the playoffs, I fail to see how Monahan shoulders all the blame for that, especially considering that he has consistently been one of the Flames's best players in the playoffs.

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[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

No more so than Gaudreau relies on Monahan to convert, as well as to play the puck in traffic. Both players benefit a great deal from one another.


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If you watch them, Gaudreau passes to Monahan a lot just into the zone and it’s Monahan who decides whether to pass back, drop to a trailer, go to the other side, or shoot. Monahan does a lot of puck distribution. He’s also the first outlet pass a lot. His only real issue IMO is a lack of speed.